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Post by somenameforme »

simianparrot wrote: post #829
somenameforme wrote: post #816

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The Lancet just released a study on this exact question. [1] From 1971 to 2021, "unilateral, economic, and US sanctions" were associated with some 564,258 deaths per year , disproportionately affecting children under 5, who are most sensitive to disruptions in healthcare or food. That's 1,544 deaths per day - for 30 years. By contrast as of August 31st 2025, the UN has assessed a total of 14,116 civilian deaths in Uk…

I'll put the blame on the sanctioned countries' leadership. If Iran wants to avoid sanctions, all they have to do is not flirt with nuclear weapons.

As of March 2025, the US intelligence had assessed that Iran was neither building nor pursuing a nuclear a weapon. [1] Claims to the contrary can from Netanyahu who is increasingly obviously an unstable individual. Notably the 'flip flop' when Trump decided to invade Iran was precipitated on very careful language that Iran could have a weapon if they chose to pursue it, under a likely exaggerated timeline. It's not really a flip flop as both statements can be, and probably were, true.

So why was Iran so close to a nuclear weapon in the first place? What happened is that after years of enriching at a normal level Iran suffered yet another attack from the US/Israel in 2021 that caused significant damage to their nuclear facilities. [2] Following this they increased enrichment to 60%, which is just below weapons grade, to make a point that they were entirely capable of making a nuclear weapon, but had made a conscious decision not to.

Following the latest US/Israel attacks on them, I think it's fairly certain that they will develop a nuke, if not only because it's increasingly obviously the only way they can stop the endless US/Israel attacks. Ultimately, you're not going to be able to stop a country full of brilliant individuals from building a nuke if they want it. It seems likely that Iran was negotiating in good faith, and then we literally launched an invasion on them mid-negotiation. What's the point of negotiating?

[1] - https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-iran-nuclear-weapon-2...

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Natanz_incident

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by jjkaczor »

fransje26 wrote: post #824
danlitt wrote: post #749

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Are you for real? Being unable to access github is not exactly comparable to rounding people up to be murdered.

Historically, the rounding-up were not meant to straight-up murder people, but to get rid of undesirables.. Now, if we read the original parent post wrote: > [..] the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal prison. [..] you, the manager or executive in charge, and anyone else who is in the know on the transaction is now facing 20 years in federal pounding-in-the-ass prison if they don't immediately c…

Oh that's an easy one - at least in the US...

Democrats and anyone who has ever expressed an "anti-fascist/anti-fascism" opinion online - or attended a recent protest...

Their "regime" leadership has stated as much.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by somenameforme »

simianparrot wrote: post #830
somenameforme wrote: post #784

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Iran has not been attacking US civilians. This is nonsense. The best you're going to come up with there is the Iran hostage crisis. And what was that? That was when Iranian students stormed and occupied the US embassy, almost 50 years ago, demanding that the US extradite Mohammed Reza Pahlavi - the tyrant that the US had installed in Iran after overthrowing their government, who was then granted asylum after he was o…

They have by proxy, that's why I used that word specifically.

No they haven't. A proxy war is what we have going on between the US and Russia in Ukraine. You instead have autonomous groups, largely affiliated primarily by religion (like Hezbollah), that receive support from Iran. It's more akin to the situation with Saudi Arabia where extremists of their flavor of Islam, including Al Qaeda, often find material and personnel support. For instance 15 of the 19 attackers from 9/11 were Saudi.

And I doubt you'd call Al Qaeda a 'Saudi proxy' or 9/11 a Saudi-US proxy war. It's nonsensical.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by michtzik »

varjag wrote: post #818
michtzik wrote: post #713

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Here's a news story about how Druzhba supplies to Germany weren't particularly interrupted by recent attacks you may be alluding to: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-kazakh-oil-... And here's KazTransoil themselves reporting how much they supplied through Druzhba recently: https://www.interfax.kz/?int_id=21&lang=eng&news_id=75303 > ASTANA. Sept 4 (Interfax-Kazakhstan) - The volume of Kazakh oil transp…

That would amount to some 2+ million tonnes per year. And I mean sure but Kazakhstan extracted 87 million tonnes of oil last year. Germany had imported some 78 million tonnes crude same year, and much of it was from other sources too.

The Caspian pipeline you mention (CPC) goes through ... Russia. And CPC Blend again blends in Russian oil.

So we find that, once again, Germany is buying "Kazakh" oil that is transported by Russia and mixed with Russian oil.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by breppp »

johnisgood wrote: post #823
breppp wrote: post #821

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Chemical weapons are not "technically" WMD, the entire discussion around WMD at the time concentrated on chemical weapons. I suggest you read about UNSCOM and UNMOVIC, what they were looking for (hint: chemical weapons), their struggles at achieving their mandates due to Iraqi manipulations, and how it led to the 2003 war. I have not moved the goal posts, from the first reply to you I maintained Iraq had used WMDs in…

> "Chemical weapons are not "technically" WMD, the entire discussion around WMD at the time concentrated on chemical weapons." False. The Bush administration's case centered on mobile biological weapons labs, aluminum tubes for nuclear centrifuges, and claims of active production facilities. Colin Powell's UN presentation focused heavily on alleged bio-weapons and nuclear programs. Chemical weapons were a minor part…

> Seriously, you trigger me with your absurdity and logical incoherence. sighs. I replied for other people, but you are on your own now. Take your own suggestions and execute them.

I could continue to counter your arguments which are either cherrypicked or false, and the fact you blame me for moving goal posts, when you had done so yourself. But I really can only admire your continued ability to defend your mind against new information which such vigor. I am also stopping here

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