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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by mpeg »

ugh123 wrote: post #711
mpeg wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest emailing Benioff directly, an EA will screen the emails and route them to the appropriate person but I believe the charity angle might get it in front of him, and probably get the fee waived When I worked there, weirder emails ended up getting addressed.

Do you have his email address? Send it to christina@hackclub.com

I do but it’s also very easily googleable and exactly what you would imagine. Everyone in Salesforce is generally either flast or first.last (or both)

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by gopher_space »

Aeolun wrote: post #525
actionfromafar wrote: post #401

Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.

Are there any coders that like salesforce in the first place? This is firmly one of those ‘foisted on you by management’ kind of products right?

People in sales think it's pretty ok, and it's easy to find contractors who will set up or expand it for you. A couple of full-time devs could set up a CMS better tailored to your company with free components, but lots of places that use Salesforce don't have in-house developers.

Salesforce knows that its codebase is a hot plate of spaghetti, but it doesn't really matter because software developers "in general" aren't their target audience in any sense.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by nixosbestos »

ghostpepper wrote: post #814
nixosbestos wrote: post #787

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yeesh. If I ranked chat platforms, Mattermost would barely be above Slack. It's pathetic that Discord runs circles around Mattermost, Slack, and Matrix for practical usability, features that make it possible to actually use with teams (not Teams). Mattermost still can't do follow System Theme, (and Slack requires you impersonating Chrome). Of course neither can Gmail. Salesforce and Google are such tiny companies…

I wonder why Zulip isn't mentioned more in these comparisons. Personally I would pick Slack over Mattermost any day in terms of sheer usability, corporate lock-in notwithstanding. I find Discord's UX to be pretty awful in terms of visual clutter and notifications demanding attention - constantly being notified to subscribe to Nitro etc.

I think Zulip is missing out on a lot by not having a "complaint" (SOC2-type2, etc) offering. I think Zulip is brilliant.

Discord at least has "forums" for forced threaded discussions, and the in-room threaded conversations work far better than Slack or Matrix's.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by joewhale »

seamanrob wrote: post #756
casq wrote: post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

*This was a mistake on knowing this would blow up

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by baq »

seamanrob wrote: post #756
casq wrote: post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

> This was a mistake.

I would be not at all surprised if Benioff said the initial deal was a mistake and you’ve fixed it now.

Nevertheless glad to see someone here trying to put out the fire, even if in the grand scheme of things it’s probably too late.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by grimgrin »

Charmunk wrote: post #769

Slack just publicly apologized for this and said it was a mistake and they will be returning hack club to the previously agreed upon plan. Hack club staff are currently discussing whether or not to go ahead with the migration to mattermost anyways. (- a hack club member)

can you please link to this public announcement

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by dhdresser »

casq wrote: post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hi everyone — Denise Dresser here, CEO of Slack. As Rob shared, this was our mistake. An oversight in our billing process caused the issue, and I’m truly sorry for the concern it created. As soon as our team learned about it, we corrected it and restored Hack Club’s nonprofit pricing.

Christina - we have reached out directly and are committed to working with Hack Club to ensure your workspace remains fully accessible and that you have everything you need to keep inspiring the next generation of coders. We’re reviewing our billing and communications processes so this doesn’t happen again.

Thanks for holding us accountable.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by coder543 »

grimgrin wrote: post #837
Charmunk wrote: post #769

Slack just publicly apologized for this and said it was a mistake and they will be returning hack club to the previously agreed upon plan. Hack club staff are currently discussing whether or not to go ahead with the migration to mattermost anyways. (- a hack club member)

can you please link to this public announcement

https://reddit.com/r/Slack/comments/1njuchb/why_is_slack_ext...

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by guluarte »

seamanrob wrote: post #756
casq wrote: post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

lol a "mistake"
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