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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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I hate the idea you love, so much intrusion in my life.

But if it is all handled locally on my device, the idea is that there is no intrusion

Software assistants summarising all my communications is intrusive, regardless of where the model runs.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> I.e. you’re conveniently leaving out the _entire_ set of reasons this isn’t the case. Would you like to list those for the phone? I don't think your analogy is fair at all.

Well, considering I also made the point that computers range (very roughly, work with me here) from $500 - $3500 depending on how upmarket they are, and phones range from $100 - $1500 depending on how upmarket they are, I can’t make an argument for why they’re more expensive, because they’re not. I can list a _few_ EXAMPLE reasons for why they cost what they cost though, even if that’s higher than you expect them to…

Well none of those are on par with a Ferrari expense except sometimes the camera. I wasn't asking for ways a specific feature could cost a bit more than the laptop version. Yeah I can come up with those myself, and many of them cut both ways like screens and durability.

And the comparison wasn't all phones and computers, it's phones like the pixel versus a decent baseline computer.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Do you know if it is also supported on GrapheneOS? I need a new phone, am struggling between FairPhone (does not have the USB capability for this) or GrapheneOS (on modern Pixel), both options align very well with my values, however not in the same dimensions, sadly.

It is supported on GrapheneOS. I've used it infrequently on a Pixel 8A. It's worth noting it only mirrors the screen, there's no extend option or DEX like experience. Edit: There is a DEX-like desktop mode in beta, along with Linux VM with graphical app support.

It's something.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Unfortunately these new phones don't fix the main issue with the Pixel: the hardware. The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This affects everything, pixels just don't last nor have great battery life for this reason.And the big issue is they aren't even much cheaper anymore. I like GrapheneOS, but my pixel just randomly stopped wor…

>The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This is the one thing I don't understand. How many people actually need the top end SoCs that other flagships come with. Phones have been more than fast enough for a long time now. Other than playing some games with tough visuals mid range SoCs are still more than powerful enough. Complaints a…

It matters when the phone is supposed to last more than two years.

Poor battery life is a symptom of a slow CPU, things that don't require full performance on a snapdragon 8 elite take double the time in a pixel while needing full turbo performance.

Don't get me started on the terrible modem efficiency.

These issues are there since the Pixel 6, and Google clearly just doesn't care.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

#835

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I just went from a Z Fold 5 to a Z Fold 7 and I hate it for this exact reason. Z Fold 6 and earlier were slim, one handed use phones when folded, small tablet when opened. Now it's just a regular phone, and a medium tablet when I open it. First phone I've ever regretted upgrading to.

Consumers have spoken though. Same as dropping the stylus...

My understanding is that smaller phones get less screen time. Thus if you have some interest in increasing it, better to push bigger ones. But I don’t know if those perverted incentives make it back to the manufacturers. Do they make the most money from sale itself or after from the various ad-/data brokers?

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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>So yeah, next time I'm in the market for a phone I think I'm going back to Samsung. Do yourself a favour and read Samsung's privacy policy first.

What about it? Asking as an iOS user.

As a Samsung user, I couldn't tell ya. I've been clicking cancel when it popped up weekly for two Samsung phones in a row.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> Linux and Android (and now also Windows) depend on web apps because they don't have good quality native apps. I fail to see any iOS without an equivalent native application on Android when the Android application is not actually significantly better. iOS really is a minority os here and it shows.

I had a really hard time finding a good email client for my Android tablet.

kmail has always worked great for me.

I am using mostly web apps. Not because web apps are inherently better or more convenient, but because ublock origin on firefox allow me to disable any third party tracking.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

The number of people who aren't vocal tech people who actually want a smaller phone is a very small part of the market. In HN-like circles they're a notable minority but among the general population they are a smaller percentage. Especially when you consider huge segments of the market where your phone is your only computing device: a smaller phone is a massive anti-feature in large parts of the world. Plus almost ev…

> almost everyone who says they want a smaller phone will just buy a larger one anyway

The problem is that smaller phones are usually fundamentally flawed in ways that aren’t about the smaller screen. Whether it’s a worse CPU, worse camera or smaller battery, people are almost never making their purchasing decision based on screen size with all else being equal. I don’t think we can conclude that most people who ask for a smaller screen don’t really want one because many just don’t want a slow phone that takes worse photos and dies by midafternoon.

I think there needs to be a recognition that bigger screens aren’t only about the bigger screens. They’re also about giving phone designers more internal space to cram in components and a larger battery.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

> Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket?

Because I haven't carried a card for years now. I couldn't even tell you where my physical credit card is.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed.

The question is whether you are ok with the model naming someone who isn‘t listed, or failing to name someone who is listed.

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