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Even in cities with good public transit, it will not take me home at 3 AM, with possibly few exceptions like New York.
Even in cities with good public transit, it will not take me home at 3 AM, with possibly few exceptions like cities that have good public transit.
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Why would they even entertain the idea of even talking to a Chinese OEM. This is obviously very important technology and Google must know the Chinese history of IP theft. They are not in the Chinese market because of this! Zeeker must have given them such an unbelievable deal that Google couldn't pass it up. Either that or the other OEMs have really soured on them. I always thought the idea of OEMs being reduced to g…
Is any of the hardware on a Waymo vehicle proprietary to Waymo? I had sort of assumed they used off the shelf LIDAR and sensors from other manufacturers, and that their secret sauce was entirely in the software. If that's the case, I don't think there would be any risk of IP loss.
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Yes, I assume these are recorded to prevent vandalism. To be fair, someone might get legitimately sick in the car (ex. child). So Google can review the tapes and decide if it was intentional or not. Regarding retention of these video recordings, you should check the Waymo user agreement in your area. You might even have the right to ask them to delete it earlier.
Would a CCPA delete request handle it? Or are they compelled to keep the video for legal reasons
Reading that Wiki page also taught me about the follow-up act passed by ballot prop: >. (Wow... pretty strong!)
I like your idea. I think it would be a worthy experience for someone on HN to contact Waymo after taking some rides and ask about videos taken during their ride. Do they have a system to request removal? Also: What are their rights under CCPA?
Finally, here is a help page from Waymo about the issue: https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/9190819?hl=en
Last FAQ has the key:
> Can I remove my data from Waymo’s system?
> You have many choices regarding how your data is used, such as viewing and editing trip history in the Waymo One app, updating your account information, deleting your account, changing location permissions, and opting out of receiving promotional messages.
> California residents have the ability to delete personal information associated with their Waymo One account or download a copy of it. If you have questions or requests related to your rights under state privacy laws, you (or your authorized agent) can also contact Waymo using this help article, Exercising your California privacy rights, or by calling us at 1-844-261-3753. See more information about these tools in our Privacy Policy.Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's actually pretty easy to automate the state of the vehicle. if anything is left in the car the video is sent to an operator. The service instructs a cleaner to check the car and the passenger is sent a warning and eventually is banned from using the service.
And when margins compress the first thing that will go is the threshold for cleaning. Cleaning is not just expensive in labor but also taking a car out of circulation. All incentives point towards lowering standards to the absolute minimum people will tolerate.
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> ... Tesla. They always make me carsick. I never heard this once before HN. What is particular about Teslas? Is it the rapid acceleration from the electric motor... or lack of familiar engine sound?
> Is it the rapid acceleration from the electric motor Yes. The hard acceleration and braking.
I promise that I am not trolling with these follow-up questions:
Have you ever ridden in a "super car" (Ferrari, etc.) that also has very fast accel/braking? Do you experience the same?
If a Tesla driver just drove a bit less aggressively, would you not get car sick? Did you ever try "FSD" on a Tesla on regular streets? Is the accel/braking still strong enough to make you feel car sick?
I ask all of these question honestly. If I was an electric car maker, I would definitely be concerned about it. To me, it fits the same problem of VR headsets where some people get "VR sick" (like car sick) when using them. They probably spend an enormous amount R&D trying to reduce this effect to a minimum for as many people as possible.
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Flagging is one thing, but I assume that there is a human in the loop before a user is put in the dead state.
There isn't. Almost everything you see that's killed has been put into that state without any moderator action. We review the ones we have time to review but that can be hours or days later, and we don't get to them all because there are so many (though users can vouch them or email us to bring anything to our attention to be reviewed). Further, even if we leave something dead, it's no indication of any "agreement" o…
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Why do you assume the surveillance will go away as they become cheaper? The taxi company know who is in their car and they have access to interior cameras if something happens. In many respects, it is going to be even more difficult to take a dump in one and get away with it than if a human was driving it. They have your credit card number and visual evidence of what you did, they will just charge your card automatic…
I assume it’ll become less manned and less action taken because manning and taking action costs money, reduces margin, and removes cars from circulation. Certainly for crimes they’ll go after you. But leaving litter, spilling stuff, even leaving bodily fluids, I suspect will get through the cracks more and more as margins compress.
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There isn't. Almost everything you see that's killed has been put into that state without any moderator action. We review the ones we have time to review but that can be hours or days later, and we don't get to them all because there are so many (though users can vouch them or email us to bring anything to our attention to be reviewed). Further, even if we leave something dead, it's no indication of any "agreement" o…
How much karma do you need to have before you're trusted to flag and vouch for comments?
[0]: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flaggi...
From the article: "This was true of the Uber and Lyft rides, too. But Obi found the shortest Waymo rides were priced 41.48% and 31.12% higher than Uber and Lyft, respectively. That gap shrunk as the rides got longer. In rides lasting between 4.3 km and 9.3 km, a Lyft cost $2.60 per km, an Uber cost $2.90 per km, and a Waymo cost $3.50 per km."
Relative increase in cost of Waymo vs. Lyft by trip-distance (inferred from the article's chart):
0.1 - 1.4km: 40%
1.4 - 2.2km: 45%
2.2 - 2.9km: 46%
2.9 - 4.3km: 39%
4.3 - 9.3km: 35%
That seems like pretty minor fluctuation and even then it doesn't entirely fit the pattern TechCrunch described.