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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

hypeatei wrote: post #824
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #798

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Trump would not have won if Dems had not escalated illegal immigration 2020-24. It was such an unforced error on Biden's part

Ah yes, you're doing the meme: if ANYTHING happens it means "fuck the Democrats" Sure, it couldn't possibly be anything else like inflation after COVID (which happened globally) that caused incumbents to lose around the world. No, Dems just needed to get this one thing right and they're to blame for Trump. Sure. EDIT: https://imgur.com/uPJAxEl

You're mistaken.

I'm pro Trump and have been for many years. I just don't think we would have won if the Dems hadn't handed us the victory. Thank you Democrats!

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by bufferoverflow »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #797
csomar wrote: post #674

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How many Waymos can be burned before the protests become riots. I agree that 1 burning Waymo is probably not worthy of a national guard deployment, but unsure above that

Zero. As soon as you start destroying stuff that isn't yours, it's no longer a peaceful protest.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by bsder »

aaronbaugher wrote: post #807
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #806

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Even Ronald Reagan wasn't as cruel as the current regime and implemented an Amnesty for millions instead of doing what Trump/ICE are currently doing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control...

Reagan's amnesty, like the others, was a bait and switch. The DC/corporate establishment said, "Let us amnesty the ones that are here, and we'll get control of the border and stop the flow." After getting their amnesty, the second part never happens. That's led directly to the current mess because it taught people that the most important thing is to get into the country, regardless of legality, so you could be in pla…

Except that Covid showed us that the immigrants quit coming and even go home if there is no job.

We know how to stop illegal immigration--you put CEOs in jail for employing illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration stops dead.

"Illegal immigration" is simply a dogwhistle.

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Post by anonfordays »

const_cast wrote: post #765
matt-attack wrote: post #604

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Or maybe they just got tired of millions of immigrants flaunting the law and overburdening the system? We had unprecedented levels of illegal immigration over the last four years. Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Why jump to these conspiracy notions about division and blatantly ignore the simplest and most obvious explanation.

> Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Coming as someone living in Texas - yes, it affects no one. It's always been an hallucination. We just attribute random things to "the illegals" when, in reality, they're not hurting anyone. In fact, if you've ever been in Texas, you'd know this state is run by illegals. I drive around and I see homes being built out the wazoo and who's on the roof?…

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by anonfordays »

bendigedig wrote: post #760
sam345 wrote: post #508

Exactly why is this HN appropriate? Nothing that is not already in the papers and nothing particularly interesting to the HN crowd per guidelines. I came here for HN and I got reddit. "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's pro…

I think it's interesting to see how much panic, head burying, and fascist apologia there is around.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by yupitsme123 »

localghost3000 wrote: post #790

I live in LA and have been here for almost 30 years now. This stunt is a provocation designed to get a reaction. He wants an excuse to crack heads in a city he hates and that hates him back. He probably also wants us to forget about Musk outing him on the Epstein files. Watching this unfold here is reminding me strongly of the Ghorman plotline in Andor S2: "You need a resistance you can count on to do the wrong thing…

I don't disagree with you, but after all the damage that was done by riots in 2020, there should be a desire to nip violent protests in the bud.

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Post by seadan83 »

matt-attack wrote: post #601
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

Apart from statements of Mayor Adams, could you list maybe 3 examples?

Trying to research this, I see examples like Denver and Chicago that have had struggles, anx did things like limit shelter stats to 72 hours. I found no examples though that were point blank: "we cannot handle this." Again, excluding mayor Adam's, perhaps you can help fill in the gaps with concrete examples and hopefully some verbatim quotes of "we cannot handle this?"

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Post by pseudalopex »

Xmd5a wrote: post #488
timewizard wrote: post #330

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> they inflamed society against that enemy They blamed them for pre-existing social problems. I feel the important context was that the government had to be significantly dysfunctional for the Nazi party to even exist.

Hitler was elected as a dictator, at least in spirit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dictator

The Nazis had strong support. But Hitler was appointed.

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

bradley13 wrote: post #418

Using the National Guard is clearly justified. Using the national military (in the case, the Marines) is...highly questionable. That said, California should have been on top of this situation. It looks like Newsom is willing to sacrifice the safety of his citizens in an attempt to score political points.

The protests were all but entirely peaceful (as in, no more violent than your typical sports celebration) until the National Guard showed up. Newsom's far from my favorite person, but his handling of this situation was spot on, and he's bang on the money about deploying troops being a gross escalation.

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Post by apwell23 »

seadan83 wrote: post #837
matt-attack wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

Apart from statements of Mayor Adams, could you list maybe 3 examples? Trying to research this, I see examples like Denver and Chicago that have had struggles, anx did things like limit shelter stats to 72 hours. I found no examples though that were point blank: "we cannot handle this." Again, excluding mayor Adam's, perhaps you can help fill in the gaps with concrete examples and hopefully some verbatim quotes of "w…

Chicago had taken measures to restrict migrant buses from dropping off migrants within the city limits so they were dropping them off in the burbs. under the guise of some nonsensical rules "we want orderly drop-offs with 24 hr advance notice and only 2 migrant busses total in 24 hrs"
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