Mozilla really keeps making missteps.
Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
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Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#832Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based on this, Firefox has a 2.54% market share of browsers worldwide, so if their goal here is to shoot themselves in the foot and get that number under 2%, mission accomplished. Firefox is still the lesser of two evils when compared to Chrome with all of its telemetry turned on. And at least it supports a proper implementation of uBlock origin, which Google just broke in Chrome. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-m…
This is such a bad way to look at Firefox browser share. Instead, look at desktop share worldwide, where it's more like 7%.
Why is it a bad way to look at it? If anything, I'd argue Firefox is more compelling on Android than desktop.
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#833Earlier quoted context omitted.
So only bookmarks of porn sites if you have Sync active, sending porn tabs to a Firefox instance on another device, browsing porn while on the Mozilla VPN, or using Firefox Relay to sign up to a porn website with an anonymous email address Fine by me since I don't use a Mozilla account, but sounds to me like I shouldn't get a Mozilla account either
Bookmarks and tab URLs don’t contain porn, generally? References are not typically considered explicit, though certainly their language isn’t clear enough about that. If you bookmark a collection of data: / blob: links then that would be the outlier scenario where you shouldn’t use any third-party server-involved bookmark syncing service, as presumably they’ll all either break or ban you once they find you using thei…
Then you haven't seen my browser
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#834The other WTF is here: Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy, and you agree that you will not use Firefox to infringe anyone’s rights or violate any applicable laws or regulations. Acceptable Use Policy links to https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/acceptable-use/ which says "You may not use any of Mozilla’s services to[...]Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that…
Mozilla's management and legal has always been amazing when it comes to unforced errors. These changes are actually pretty normal, but they're also worded more scarily by being more encompassing than they need to be. Mozilla has always sucked when it comes to communicating with the outside world.
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#835The other WTF is here: Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy, and you agree that you will not use Firefox to infringe anyone’s rights or violate any applicable laws or regulations. Acceptable Use Policy links to https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/acceptable-use/ which says "You may not use any of Mozilla’s services to[...]Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that…
> It's against the Terms of Use to use Firefox to... watch porn? Firefox isn't a Mozilla service. The Mozilla services are things like account sync, or the review tool they use.
with this new TOS, Firefox became Mozilla "service"
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#836I am, unfortunately, looking at alternative browsers because of this. Firefox was the best fit. Big enough that they could reasonably keep up but not one of the corporate browsers that I have 0 trust in. It wasn't perfect but it was better than chrome for sure. Browsers are like cars now. It is becoming impossible to buy a new(er) car and have your privacy respected, but it is unreasonable to expect any normal life (…
LibreWolf? It's Firefox without the Mozilla branding
I switched because of this. Day 1 so no opinion yet.
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#837What would complete the irony would be Google declaring they are abandoning ads in the age of AI :)
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#838Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll keep using firefox simply because I keep it behind a proxy server with all pocket, mozilla, firefox and google domains blocked. The larger impact I suspect this will have in my life, is that I'll increasingly turn to not using websites, opting instead to using tools like yt-dlp. These changes didn't just happen because of a bunch of greedy ad pushers. This and many other changes over the last few decades came ab…
What other tools are you using instead of Firefox and/or a browser? How does discovery work with tools like yt-dlp?
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Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#839Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's against the Terms of Use to use Firefox to... watch porn? Firefox isn't a Mozilla service. The Mozilla services are things like account sync, or the review tool they use.
> Firefox isn't a Mozilla service. They might clarify that in the agreement. I doubt many people are intimately familiar with Mozilla, Firefox, 'services', etc. to distinguish. I am and I didn't think of it in a brief reading (which is all I have time for).
Then they shouldn't explicitly say “Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy, and you agree that you will not use Firefox to infringe anyone’s rights or violate any applicable laws or regulations.”
Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
#840Since facebook was fined for processing friend requests with foreigners on foreign servers, I feel like licenses like this are actually necessary for any product with any remote services components to operate in the EU, with more jurisdictions to come suddenly and unpredictably.