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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Post by neoromantique »

pjc50 wrote: post #777
johnnyanmac wrote: post #617

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I'm assuming whatever spending advantadge Dems had was more or less squandered the moment those billionaires got cold feet and decided to oust Joe Biden instead of relying on the incumbent vote. That disruption very likely scared off several donors. But yes, there was also simply a lack of energy in the D voter base in 2024. No amount of spending can recover disengaged voters who simply dismissed everyone as "equally…

Dem handling of the Palestine situation went extremely badly for them.

There was no good way to handle it, Pro-Palestinian propaganda was very active, to a significantly larger extent than it is now.

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Post by youngtaff »

fshr wrote: post #603
UltraSane wrote: post #479

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Tesla sales are collapsing globally partly due to Musk's mental breakdown and are not likely to recover much, especially since Tesla no longer really has a CEO.

To me it seems to have very little to do with his antics. Surely inflation, market saturation, and increased competition is more probable?

EV sales are generally growing in Europe

Tesla sales are static or shrinking

Take January YoY in the UK, EV sales rose 24%, Tesla's sales dropped 8% ish

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Post by hengistbury »

roody15 wrote: post #829

This is an odd thread. If a group is able to take control and prevent OpenAI from becoming a for profit corporation would be a welcome development.

I suspect many people in this thread don't believe this is genuinely about preventing OpenAI from becoming a for-profit corporation.

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Post by youngtaff »

Geee wrote: post #620
UltraSane wrote: post #479

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Tesla sales are collapsing globally partly due to Musk's mental breakdown and are not likely to recover much, especially since Tesla no longer really has a CEO.

This is not true. Tesla recently released new Model Y [0], and there's a gap in sales because of that transition. The old Model Y was the best selling car of any kind in 2024 globally. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6e4-1uuGA

Looking at the 'best selling car' creates a distorted view

Tesla's sales are spread over a few models, VW's EV sales are spread over ten or so models

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Post by latexr »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #803
01jonny01 wrote: post #798

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Oh come on stop perpetuating misinformation. Unless Musk is going to Nazi rallies and jew hating I can't take anyone who believes this seriously.

How is it misinformation? It's obvious what it was. Doesn't mean he's a Nazi, maybe he's "just" a '90s era trolling edgelord. Come to think of it, considering his X shitposts he boosts to hundreds of millions of people every day, that's a good description of him. [To people who think he's a Nazi: yes, I've read all the arguments, no, I don't care - giving him the benefit of the doubt still makes him a gigantic shitlo…

Reach matters. If you’re a nobody with three followers and tell someone on the internet to kill themselves, you’re a troll and can be ignored. If you have millions of followers, that one comment will get the other person doxxed, threatened by your followers, and may end up in physical harm to them and their family.

If you own a social media platform and have this amount of reach you can never be “just a troll edgelord”.

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Post by latexr »

rastignack wrote: post #769
margalabargala wrote: post #288

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We'll see. After throwing out a few Nazi salutes, Tesla sales have been tanking in Europe.

I don’t think we need to lie or be disingenuous about this gesture, Elon is not known for his hate of Jewish people. I think this obviously fake take helps him. There is enough to criticize in his actions.

> Elon is not known for his hate of Jewish people.

You might not know him for that, but people who pay attention do.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/business/elon-musk-reveals-hi...

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Post by csomar »

josefresco wrote: post #24
PyWoody wrote: post #14

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https://xcancel.com/sama/status/1889059531625464090 , for those of us without an account.

FYI X has relaxed the login prompt (at least for me). You can again see the post without an account, but not the thread.

I created an account for a product I am currently working on and got suspended after a week or so. Didn't make any tweet. Didn't even login or use it. Now when I open Twitter/X it just shows I was banned. I honestly wonder how that site it still in operation and still has real users after all of this.

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

blitzar wrote: post #802
UltraSane wrote: post #479

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Tesla sales are collapsing globally partly due to Musk's mental breakdown and are not likely to recover much, especially since Tesla no longer really has a CEO.

I wish I could get paid $50bn to have a mental breakdown.

Pretty sure most people would have a mental breakdown if given 50 billion.

Imagine if pretending to be your friend was basically a fortune 500 size industry.

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Post by bdangubic »

onemoresoop wrote: post #705
penjelly wrote: post #688

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sales were trending down significantly in Europe even before the salute though.

That doesn’t mean Musk’s gesture didn’t accelerate the downward trend. But I agree with the general sentiment. Overall Teslas can’t compete with other EV makers because as soon as there’s a real market Tesla isn’t that attractive anymore outside of a brand loyal niche. Musk appears to have lost his magic, or perhaps his mind too. Dude looks quite disheveled these days..

because as soon as there’s a real market Tesla isn’t that attractive anymore outside of a brand loyal niche.

can't be further from the truth. if you drive tesla and then drive all of the competitors tesla is faaar superior car. cars are great. the core issue here are margins - before competition tesla's could retain the huge margins on their vehicles. feels like in order to compete now they will have to drop the prices and hence their margins and with the forward p/e ratio of 1,000,129 that won't go well for the company's financials. and of course elon being a tool isn't going to be helping with this :)

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Post by theshrike79 »

fshr wrote: post #603
UltraSane wrote: post #479

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Tesla sales are collapsing globally partly due to Musk's mental breakdown and are not likely to recover much, especially since Tesla no longer really has a CEO.

To me it seems to have very little to do with his antics. Surely inflation, market saturation, and increased competition is more probable?

Tesla is a very very nice computer with a decent car attached to it.

In the best of times Musk's leadership brought us stuff like "Joe Mode" just because he saw someone complain on Twitter.

Now he's completely unhinged and we can't trust him even as much as before. He might just decide something crazy and force the factories to change it just because.

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