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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jacobgkau »

jjice wrote: post #121
darkwizard42 wrote: post #65

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The Wii was on the of the best selling consoles of all time? I believe only surpassed by the PS2. Is the gimmicky a personal opinion or something you believe didn’t resonate with customers?

"Gimmicky" in the sense that they used movement controls and that's non-standard in the industry and went away mostly afterwards. I'm considering anything that isn't a traditional stationary control (keyboard + mouse or controller) as "gimmicky" or out of the ordinary. In terms of sales, you're absolutely right - the Wii crushed it. I'd be curious to know about usage and software sales though. Maybe I'm wrong (very p…

> almost everyone I knew had a Wii at some point, but they didn't use it outside of a family toy with a few games when they first got it.

At various points in my family's owning one, we obviously used it for the Wii Sports-type games, as well as non-motion games like NES titles from the Virtual Console (the Wiimote in its rubber case felt surprisingly decent in the hands while turned sideways). But we also used it for Netflix and YouTube with the official apps, and surprisingly, various other websites with the Internet Channel. We sometimes used the SD card reader to look at photos from digital cameras, which seems like it doesn't make a lot of sense today, but was easier than connecting up a camera or camcorder to a TV with a cable to look at things, which was also a thing back then.

It was certainly a "go long periods without touching it" part of the home, but it was also surprisingly versatile with the uses that did pop up for it. And I think we got more usage out of it, both in terms of hours and in terms of distinct use cases, than we got out of the Xbox 360 we had later (if not, it was basically due to Minecraft, not because we played a larger number of games on the Xbox).

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #608
EA-3167 wrote: post #598

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The good news is that the best Nintendo platform is also the best mobile platform: The Steam Deck. It plays Nintendo games better than Nintendo consoles do, and as a bonus, it plays everything else.

Have you ever tried to dock a Steam deck to a TV? Have you ever tried to use physical media with a Steam deck? Have you ever tried to get 5 hours of battery life with a Steam deck? Have you ever put a Steam deck in your pocket? (I do have big pockets, but at least with the Switch Lite, it's possible.) Nintendo will be just fine. I personally will never use a platform that can kick me out on a whim, or could screw me…

> Have you ever put a Steam deck in your pocket?

I mean, there's no fucking way you could fit a regular Switch into your pocket. I don't care how big your pockets are. So that doesn't really seem like a fair criticism.

One of the things I find sad about the Switch is in fact that Nintendo seems to think it fulfills the same niche that their portable systems did, but it doesn't even come close. I can fit my 3DS (XL or not) into a pocket very comfortably, not so with my Switch.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #426
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #58

I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out. That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

The current Switch had an alternative monochrome (grey) version from the start, so I guess there's a chance the alternative version of the new one would be colorful.

It's been a while, but from my recollection that was the main version at launch. It's what I got, anyways. I don't remember the red and blue joycons showing up until later.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by stocknoob »

reshlo wrote: post #600
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #504

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> Microsoft of course couldn't compete with an "Xbox 2" vs a "PS3" Part of me wants to think that consumers can't possibly that uninformed, but I know in my heart I am wrong. They should have done what Nintendo (usually) does and left the numbers out of it. Call the next iteration of the Xbox the box.

A&W tried to make a 1/3 pound burger to compete with the McDonald’s Quarter Pounder but it failed because people thought it was smaller, because 3 is smaller than 4. https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fr...

Why’d they give up? They should have just made a 1/5 pound burger.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by riahi »

freetime2 wrote: post #734

I've had a lot of frustration with Switch joy-cons. Not only drift, which has claimed a number of them, but also issues with the console not recognizing when they are attached, and one pair that for some reason the switch won't recognize when trying to use in the horizontal orientation. No doubt my kids have subjected it to hard use and probably a drop or two, but still frustrating. It looks like they've added some r…

RE horizontal - there is a ribbon cable that can literally fracture which causes the Zr and Zl buttons to quit working which only really manifests when trying to use 1 joycon horizontally (personally when Mario party happens).

The repair takes about 20 minutes the first time you do it and the ribbon cable is on amazon for about $7.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by kridsdale1 »

nullbyte808 wrote: post #625
nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

I hope it has at LEAST 12 GB of RAM. Hopefully 16 or 24 GB.

Most brand new laptops are not even there.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

The only reason I have a Switch is to play Nintendo games. They are only available there, and will continue to be only available on Switch 2. Steam deck offers nothing, by comparison.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by aranelsurion »

Celeo wrote: post #654

That was a very enjoyable trailer - visuals and sound both. That being said, the new Switch looks less ... "fun" than the existing Switch.

I know it's perhaps a silly thing to nitpick on, but the general look of Switch 2 with its darker, Steam Deck-ish joycons don't look as fun as the first one to me.

Current Switch with the neon blue/red joycons had its own character, and IIRC that color combination was what Nintendo often marketed. This change makes it look like a MSI or ASUS product than a continuation of Nintendo's own line.

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

dietr1ch wrote: post #588
joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

Nintendo does not compete on specs. They rely on the fact that fun is pretty much orthogonal to bleeding edge graphics. They use that awareness and take advantage of simpler graphics to trade off processing power for features (portability, novelty) and profit (60>=usd games). From time to time they also remind us that little hardware can do a lot if it's not running Chrome on a trench coat, and instead care is put in…

This is true. But high specs are a big win anyway if it opens up access to a bigger library of 3rd party games.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jacobgkau »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #319
evujumenuk wrote: post #310

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Huh? It totally has a touch screen — it has to, for backward compatibility.

Sorry, you're right. I forgot because literally nothing supports it other than maybe wifi password entry and navigating some menus.

Clubhouse 51 has a section of games that utilize the touch screen, such as air hockey (along with others that're nice to be able to go between the touch screen and joysticks for, like the card games where the touch screen's a lot faster to use for moving cards around).
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