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Re: ChatGPT Pro

#832

Did they seriously just make a big deal of 10 grants of $200/month and think it was something important? THEY DONATED $200x10 TO A MEDICAL PROJECT? zomg. faint. sizzle. Make 1000 grants. Make 10,000. 10? Seriously?

Coming from Mr. Worldcoin, are you really surprised? Pretty much everything this company does is a grift, and the CEO-types are eating it up as you can see from this thread

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#833
post #779

I paid $200 but it can't figure out something this simple. Sonnet 3.5 gets this question right https://chatgpt.com/share/67528a78-c61c-8007-b6fa-1d1deb8d84... I'm going to give it one month. So far I'm inclined to not pay this crazy fee if the performance is like this

Am I reading that correctly? You're using GPT 4o-mini? Why not try the more impressive o1 model? Not that I think any of these would be worth it for me.

I am using o1 Pro in that chat

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#834
post #285

$200 / mo is leaving a lot of money on the table. there are many who wouldn't bat an eye at $1k / month that guarantees most powerful AI (even if it's just 0.01% better than competition), and no limits on anything. y'all are greatly underestimating the value of that feeling of (best + limitlessness). high performers make decisions very differently than the average HN user.

at 1k/mo I suspect people would get quite upset if the product doesn’t deliver all the time. and for something as vague as an LLM, it will fuck up enough at some point.

$200/mo is enough to make decision makers feel powerful and remain a little bit lenient on widdle 'ol ChatGPT

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#835
post #75

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I am a moderately successful software consultant and it is not even 1% of my revenue. So definitely not insane if it delivers the value.

What I doubt though is that it can reach a mass market even in business. A good large high resolution screen is something that I absolutely consider to deliver the value it costs. Most businesses don’t think their employees deserve a 2k screen which will last for 6-10 years and thus costs just a fraction of this offering.

Apparently the majority of businesses don’t believe in marginal gains

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#836

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The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

100% this. If they can figure out trust through some paradigm where enterprises can use the models but not have to trust OpenAI itself directly then $200 will be less of an issue.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#837

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> As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated into their authentication, it's not integrated into their internal permissions model, the IT department can't enforce any policies on how it's used. In almost all ways it doesn't look like enterprise IT. What according to you is the bare minimum of what it will take for…

SSO and enforceable privacy and IP protections would be a start. RBAC, queues, caching results, and workflow management would open a lot of doors very quickly.

It seems that ChatGPT Enterprise already has many of these:

https://openai.com/enterprise-privacy/

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#838
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Teams winning on price instead of quality is very telling of the state of business. Your #1/#2 communication tool being regarded as a cost to be saved upon.

Name a strictly better corporate communication tool than Teams

Slack. No question.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#839
post #572

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

I wonder if OpenAI can break into enterprise. I don’t see much of a path for them, at least here in the EU. Even if they do manage to build some sort of trust as far as data safety goes, and I’m not sure they’ll have much more luck with that than Facebook had trying to sell that corporate thing they did (still do?). But if they did, they will still be facing the very real issue of having to compete with Microsoft. I…

> I don’t see much of a path for them, at least here in the EU. Even if they do manage to build some sort of trust as far as data safety goes

They are already selling (API) plans, well, them and MS Azure, with higher trust guarantees. And companies are using it

Yes if they deploy a datacenter in the EU or close it will be a no-brainer (kinda pun intended)

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#840

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Isn’t that Google’s garbage models only?

Whats garbage about it?

1. Hallucinates more than any other model (Gemini flash/pro 1,1.5, 1121).

2. Useless with large context. Ignores, forgets, etc.

3. Terrible code and code understanding.

Also this is me hoping it would be good and looking at it with rose tinted glasses because I could use cloud credits to run it and save money.

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