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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by anthomtb » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

dcchambers wrote: post #565

The Democrats need to figure out how to recapture the favor of young men. The Joe Rogans/Logan Pauls/Elon Musks/Tiktok/Podcast bros are doing serious damage to that demographic. Almost a +30 swing to the right in the 18-29 M category from 2020.

Since promoting a secure economic future is clearly not in the Democratic party game plan, maybe trick the Republicans into starting a war and then campaign on stopping it?

I am not sure what could hit at the self-interest of the 18-29M demographic other than the Selective Service.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by epolanski » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

Interesting unrelated fact, but at 6745 comments this page lags a lot on my phone, even typing this is difficult.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by jkubicek » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

ramoz wrote: post #79

As an American who grew from nothing, served in the military, and expanded in my career - I find the concerns for Democracy comical. Most of you do not understand the type of people that built and fought for democracy. There is no real fear amongst these same type of people in modern America.

> Most of you do not understand the type of people that built and fought for democracy.

I AM the type of people that built and fought for democracy. My people donate to the ACLU and drive people to the polls. We marched for civil rights and women's rights. We fight voter disenfranchisement and poll intimidators and insurrections.

This is EXACLY why I'm concerned for Democracy.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by marcosdumay » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #640

This will sadly be the end of FCC/FTC and all the antitrust efforts that were graining steam over the last few years.

Now it's up to see if the world will decouple form the US monopolies.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by BryantD » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

cynicalpeace wrote: post #308

Parties basically switched sides this election. From 2008 to now: - Pro war party: Repubs -> Dems - Dick Cheney party: Repubs -> Dems - Elitist party: Repubs -> Dems - Working class party: Dems -> Repubs - Pro free speech party: Dems -> Repubs - Bigger spending party: Dems -> Repubs - Skeptical of large corps: Dems -> Repubs There are some issues where they haven't switched (eg. abortion)

I am honestly unsure why the characterization of Trump as anti-war overlooks his stated desire to "order the Department of Defense to make appropriate use of special forces, cyber warfare, and other covert and overt actions to inflict maximum damage on [Mexican] cartel leadership, infrastructure, and operations." Whether or not you think that's justified, it is a very clear statement of intent to use military force on foreign territory, at our discretion. And that's a quote from 2023.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by jdlyga » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:15 PM UTC

Another perplexing decision. It reminds me of when Bush won his second term. In retrospect, nobody today thinks that was a good move. But you'd be surprised how many people vote for Trump because they want to save money on taxes and think republican policies will help the economy.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by AdeptusAquinas » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:15 PM UTC

Not sure if its clear here to US participants, but the world views this outcome much like we did in 2016: it makes the US into an absolute laughing stock. I don't fully understand: he was voted out in 2020 due to the massive failures of his term and him personally, and now four years later when he has become even more deranged, they voted him back in? What the hell?

Positive outcomes I see is that much like with the US's unequivocal support of Israel, this devastates the US's reputation and foreign influence. Trump wants to abandon Europe and Ukraine, which might grant Europe the independence and the urgency to step up and support Ukraine itself, unfettered by dysfunctional politics back in the US. A third pole on the world power stage would improve things, the US isolated back home in its infighting and staying out of the rest of the worlds business. IF the EU steps up.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by ranger_danger » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:18 PM UTC

drawkward wrote: post #553

It's the economy, stupid: -Inflation is not prices; it is the rate of change in prices. Low inflation doesn't imply low prices. -Aggregate statistics don't necessarily explain individual outcomes. The Dems failed on this count massively, and have, for maybe the last 40 years, which is about the amount of time it took for my state to go from national bellwether (As goes Ohio, so goes the nation) to a reliably red stat…

Current news stories seem to suggest that the upcoming administration will likely worsen inflation.

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by snihalani » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:19 PM UTC

Do we need to allow parties to put up multiple candidates and implement ranked choice voting? would that help us with outcomes like these?

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by idunnoman1222 » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 9:20 PM UTC

zanfr wrote: post #630

I think its time for the EU to distance itself from the US trainwreck

We literally never think about you