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Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

0points wrote: post #615
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't the way they work today. LLMs can easily find errors in outputs they themselves just produced. Start adding different prompts, different models and you get all kinds of ways to catch errors. Just like humans.

> LLMs can easily find errors in outputs they themselves just produced. Really? That must be a very recent development, because so far this has been a reason for not using them at scale. And noone is. Do you have a source?

Lots of companies are using them at scale.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by justinpombrio »

kenjackson wrote: post #482
justinpombrio wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can you spot all the problems? You were probably being rhetorical, but there are two problems: - `p = 2` should be outside the loop - `prime_factors.append(n)` appends `1` onto the end of the list for no reason With those two changes I'm pretty sure it's correct.

You don't need to append 'p' in the inner while loop more than once. Maybe instead of an array for keeping the list of prime factors do it in a set.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=prime+factors+of+12

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by remram »

GeneralMayhem wrote: post #514
remram wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another 60% is auto-generated protobuf/grpc code. Maybe protoc counts as "AI".

Google does not check in protoc-generated code. It's all generated on demand by Blaze/Bazel.

Oh thanks for the info.

On the other hand, that doesn't mean it doesn't count for the purpose of this press release/advertisement...

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by sanj »

Caveat: I formerly worked at Google.

What missing is that code being written by AI may have less of an impact than dataset that are developed or refined by AI. Consider examples like a utility function's coefficients, or the weights of a model.

As these are aggressively tuned using ML feedback, they'll influence far more systems than raw code.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by walthamstow »

busterarm wrote: post #819
atoav wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this is basically the google CEO saying "a quarter of our terminal inputs is written by a glorified tab completion"?

glorified, EXPENSIVE tab completion.

I assume you're referring to the compute/energy used to run the completion?

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by 4lb0 »

OnionBlender wrote: post #528
asdfman123 wrote: post #398

I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

Do people find these AI auto complete things helpful? I was trying the XCode one and it kept suggesting API calls that don't exist. I spent more time fixing its errors than I would have spent typing the correct API call.

I use Codeium in NeoVim and yes I find it very helpful. Of course, is not 100% error free, but even when it has errors most of the time it is easier for me to fix them than to write it from scratch.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Post by simplyluke »

arisAlexis wrote: post #592
simplyluke wrote: post #580

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This is exactly how I’ve used copilot for over a year now. It’s really helpful! Especially with repetitive code. Certainly worth what my employer pays for it. The general public has a very different idea of that though and I frequently meet people very surprised the entire profession hasn’t been automated yet based on headlines like this.

Because you are using it like that doesn't mean that it can't be used for the whole stack and on its own and the public including laymen such as the Nvidia CEO and Sam think that yes, we (I'm a dev) will be replaced. Plan accordingly my friend.

I was a hacker before the entire stack I work in was common or released, and I’ll be one when all our tools change again in the future. I have family who programmed with punch cards.

But I doubt the predictions from men whose net worth depends on the hype they foment.

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