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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by neilv »

> A new 12MP Center Stage camera makes video calls even more engaging, perfectly centering users and those around them in the frame, even when moving around.

For WFH, do you have a sense of what's potentially in-frame?

In the video, the active frame expands automatically to include additional people -- showing parts of the background that it didn't initially.

(Time to update the videoconf skills of not including messy kitchen doorway in frame, and of SOs estimating whether they can walk past out of the camera's field of view.)

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by flemhans »

brookst wrote: post #829
hnburnsy wrote: post #817

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They'll also never let the iPad run macOS, because if people could own one device instead of two, that would be bad for their profits. They'll keep them cleanly differentiated for as long as they can. They also don't have profiles on the iPad because then families could share devices which would be bad for their profits. Instead it is one iPad per person.

You know some rich families! I know a half dozen families with shared ipads, and not a one where each person gets their own.

Sharing an iPad feels weird to me. Denmark middle class chiming in

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by shiroiushi »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #785
v1ne wrote: post #699

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Using an M2 SSD instead of soldering the chip on board has more implications: PCB gets physically larger, and takes more power or has less performance talking to the SSD. Heat transfer is also worse. I completely understand why they go for a soldered SSD chip. One way of true environmentally-friendly innovation could have been to find a way to attach the SSD chip so that a user could safely replace it, though, with l…

> PCB gets physically larger, and takes more power or has less performance talking to the SSD. Heat transfer is also worse. I don't think these are real problems. The M.2 device would take up space you could have used for the PCB, but then you would have had to use that PCB space for the chips that are on the SSD. The SSDs in current Macbooks do around 3GB/s. NVMe Gen5 does 14GB/s. The speed-of-light latency from any…

M.2 devices save space on a PCB: yes, the connector itself takes some room, but the alternative is sticking all those chips on the PCB itself, and those chips take up more space (just look at any M.2 NVMe drive). The M.2 form factor is moving those things off the main PCB, and onto a daughterboard that usually sits directly on top of it and parallel to it.

The idea that a PCB gets larger with an M.2 slot is truly insane.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by heartbreak »

baron816 wrote: post #48
minimaxir wrote: post #3

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.

Jobs’ Apple would’ve moved the Magic Keyboard USB-C port to the bottom of the keyboard today just to watch people whine online.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by paulannesley »

neilv wrote: post #831

> A new 12MP Center Stage camera makes video calls even more engaging, perfectly centering users and those around them in the frame, even when moving around. For WFH, do you have a sense of what's potentially in-frame? In the video, the active frame expands automatically to include additional people -- showing parts of the background that it didn't initially. (Time to update the videoconf skills of not including mess…

There's a menubar UI that appears while the camera is in use, to control the digital zoom and pan/tilt; zooming all the way out to “0.5x” shows the extent that can be potentially in-frame.

Anecdotally, the auto-tracking Center Stage feature is more distracting than useful, and best turned off.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by xuki »

conradev wrote: post #600
jjtheblunt wrote: post #570

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> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

It's not that they actively do bad things, it's that they only dedicate real resources in the direction of self-interest. Tim Cook likes to point to their solar investments and accessibility as examples of "doing good" when in reality the former is a good long term financial bet and the latter is generally under-resourced (or "cheap" to them). They'd use M.2 SSDs in their Macs instead of soldering flash chips to the…

The engineer that developed AirDrop released an unofficial update because Apple would not support older Mac despite it was developed and tested on that very machine: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/gYXcHRGP4d

If that’s not planned obsolescence I don’t know what it is.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by philistine »

tomcam wrote: post #716
jjtheblunt wrote: post #570

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> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

With respect, then, why do you think iPhone or iPad batteries can’t be replaced by the average user after a decade and a half?

For the same reason I can't replace the battery on my electric car (not the 9V one). Because the car maker made that choice, for a myriad of good and bad reasons. What's your point?

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by shiroiushi »

Schiendelman wrote: post #764
tomcam wrote: post #716

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With respect, then, why do you think iPhone or iPad batteries can’t be replaced by the average user after a decade and a half?

Waterproofing. It really is that simple. The math would never work out trading that for easy replaceability. And every average user can get a shop to replace their battery.

The old Samsung Galaxy S5 was waterproof and had a user-replaceable battery, so your argument doesn't hold water.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by shiroiushi »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #594
zeusk wrote: post #592

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Because as a customer you should probably buy a studio display and Mac mini if that's your use case.

"My use case" of ...*squints*... not throwing amazing and still functional monitors in the trash because the computer part in them is obsolete/dead and keep reusing them instead? How rude of me to reject Apple's marketing NPC programming and use common sense instead. How about Apple just puts the 2 cent connector & PHY, and let the users who paid for the device decide how they want to use the product. Gaslighting peo…

>Gaslighting people with the "you're holding/using it wrong" argument today is just .. I can't even express anymore without breaking HN rules.

Yet people who complain about this "gaslighting" from Apple continue to buy Apple products.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by nimchimpsky »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #570
SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

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