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"This knowledge is perfectly fine to disseminate via traditional means, but God forbid an LLM share it!" Barrier to entry is much lower.
How is typing a query in a chat window “much lower” vs typing the query in Google?
Learning to Reason with LLMs
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#832>We believe that a hidden chain of thought presents a unique opportunity for monitoring models. Assuming it is faithful and legible, the hidden chain of thought allows us to "read the mind" of the model and understand its thought process. For example, in the future we may wish to monitor the chain of thought for signs of manipulating the user. However, for this to work the model must have freedom to express its thoug…
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#833The performance on programming tasks is impressive, but I think the limited context window is still a big problem. Very few of my day-to-day coding tasks are, "Implement a completely new program that does XYZ," but more like, "Modify a sizable existing code base to do XYZ in a way that's consistent with its existing data model and architecture." And the only way to do those kinds of tasks is to have enough context ab…
Humans work on abstractions and I see no reason to believe that models cannot do the same
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I always laughed at the idea of a LLM Skynet "secretly" plotting to nuke humanity, while a bunch of humans watch it unfold before their eyes in plaintext. Now that seems less likely. At least OpenAI can see what it's thinking. A next step might be allowing the LLM to include non-text-based vectors in its internal thoughts, and then do all internal reasoning with raw vectors. Then the LLMs will have truly private thou…
At this point the G in GPU must be completely dropped
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#835>We believe that a hidden chain of thought presents a unique opportunity for monitoring models. Assuming it is faithful and legible, the hidden chain of thought allows us to "read the mind" of the model and understand its thought process. For example, in the future we may wish to monitor the chain of thought for signs of manipulating the user. However, for this to work the model must have freedom to express its thoug…
Did OpenAI ever even claim that they would be an open source company? It seems like their driving mission has always been to create AI that is the "most beneficial to society".. which might come in many different flavors.. including closed source.
>We're hoping to grow OpenAI into such an institution. As a non-profit, our aim is to build value for everyone rather than shareholders. Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. We'll freely collaborate with others across many institutions and expect to work with companies to research and deploy new technologies.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160220125157/https://www.opena...
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#836Some practical notes from digging around in their documentation: In order to get access to this, you need to be on their tier 5 level, which requires $1,000 total paid and 30+ days since first successful payment. Pricing is $15.00 / 1M input tokens and $60.00 / 1M output tokens. Context window is 128k token, max output is 32,768 tokens. There is also a mini version with double the maximum output tokens (65,536 tokens…
Good opening for OpenAI's competitors to run a 'we're not snobs' promotion.
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#837>We believe that a hidden chain of thought presents a unique opportunity for monitoring models. Assuming it is faithful and legible, the hidden chain of thought allows us to "read the mind" of the model and understand its thought process. For example, in the future we may wish to monitor the chain of thought for signs of manipulating the user. However, for this to work the model must have freedom to express its thoug…
Did OpenAI ever even claim that they would be an open source company? It seems like their driving mission has always been to create AI that is the "most beneficial to society".. which might come in many different flavors.. including closed source.
> We’re hoping to grow OpenAI into such an institution. As a non-profit, our aim is to build value for everyone rather than shareholders. Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. We’ll freely collaborate with others across many institutions and expect to work with companies to research and deploy new technologies.
I don't see much evidence that the OpenAI that exists now—after Altman's ousting, his return, and the ousting of those who ousted him—has any interest in mind besides its own.
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#838The progress in AI is incredibly depressing, at this point I don't think there's much to look forward to in life. It's sad that due to unearned hubris and a complete lack of second-order thinking we are automating ourselves out of existence. EDIT: I understand you guys might not agree with my comments. But don't you thinking that flagging them is going a bit too far?
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#839>We believe that a hidden chain of thought presents a unique opportunity for monitoring models. Assuming it is faithful and legible, the hidden chain of thought allows us to "read the mind" of the model and understand its thought process. For example, in the future we may wish to monitor the chain of thought for signs of manipulating the user. However, for this to work the model must have freedom to express its thoug…
Did OpenAI ever even claim that they would be an open source company? It seems like their driving mission has always been to create AI that is the "most beneficial to society".. which might come in many different flavors.. including closed source.
> Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. We’ll freely collaborate with others across many institutions and expect to work with companies to research and deploy new technologies.
From their very own website. Of course they deleted it as soon as Altman took over and turned it into a for profit, closed company.
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#840> Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?