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Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by lobsterthief »

jotaen wrote: post #512
ks2048 wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I'm looking at alternatives to get off netlify ASAP.

For static sites, I’m quite happy with Cloudflare Pages + Github deploy action. ( https://github.com/cloudflare/pages-action )

Thanks, I have 3 sites I need to get off Netlify and I’ve spent the morning reading about Cloudflare Pages.

My only hesitation is the 20k file limit; one of our sites is a large Gatsby site that generates certain content programmatically, sometimes using a series of YAML files as the source. Pretty sure we’re over 20k pages by themselves. Been meaning to move this one to Next.js sometime but that’s not on our roadmap anytime soon.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by lobsterthief »

rafram wrote: post #524
jari_mustonen wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Current policy?" So, you will retain a right to change such fees when you feel like it. This is a serious matter. We are building a new site for our company with Netlify, but we can't open ourselves to this predatory practice. And even if you do not mean to be predatory, even the option of such is enough. If not resolved with a clean, legally binding promise, our company (and probably quite a few others) must move o…

Presumably your company’s site won’t be on their limited free tier.

The paid tier (like $19/mo/user) has the same vulnerability. Overages are charged at the same price per GB as the free tier and they could still be charged $100k for the exact same thing.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by rsolva »

ilaksh wrote: post #715
rsolva wrote: post #159

Hosting personal sites on cheap hardware at home makes even more sense to me after reading this horror story. Why do not more technically inclined people self-host? Is it force of habit from how things are done at work? I would much rather run the "risk" of some occasional dowtime, than keeping the lights on at all costs under a DDoS-attack.

It's impractical because residential internet speed is very asymmetrical and behind NAT. You will still need external service to get around the NAT thing and the fact you don't have a static IP.

You do not need a lot of speed to host a personal or hobbyist blog, and NAT is just something you configure once and it's done. I use my domain providers API to update the DNS records as soon as my public IP changes (with a tiny shell script on my server). I even host some semi-commercial sites from home and it is fine :)

I would much rather run the chance of some occasional downtime in exchange of being in control of the infrastructure and owning my own data. I really like the idea of a inter-connected net that is kinda spread all over, not super concentrated to a handful of data hubs.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by rsolva »

siddheshgunjal wrote: post #766
rsolva wrote: post #159

Hosting personal sites on cheap hardware at home makes even more sense to me after reading this horror story. Why do not more technically inclined people self-host? Is it force of habit from how things are done at work? I would much rather run the "risk" of some occasional dowtime, than keeping the lights on at all costs under a DDoS-attack.

Why not go for GitHub hosting then?

That could be a nice backup for when I experience downtime, but I would rather run a simple webserver at home for stuff that does not require extreme scale or a lot of resources. Hosting some websites at home is not that complicated and it keeps the dream of a distributed Internet alive!

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by [deleted] »

hayst4ck wrote: post #194
zsellera wrote: post #150

After doing some math it doesn't feel like a ddos: - $104k at ($55 / 100 GB) = 189 TB of traffic - It means the popular ~3.5 MB media file was downloaded ~54M times - Which sound like a lot, but if you get popular in a country with 1.4B people, it's not (~3% accessed). What if it happens at AWS Cloudfront? At $.1/GB it sums up to ~$18k. In the light of these, Netlify's offer of ~$5k seems generous.

The author claimed Netlify's own support agent said it was an L7 ddos and offered a 95% concession because it was a ddos. There is no reason to question whether it was a ddos or not because, allegedly, both parties in this dispute already agree it was a ddos.

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Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by Izzy4me1 »

Free plan can be used with some iamnobody@gmail.com email and without any credit card info. It looks like good idea because I thought too that Starter plan is 100% free and if you would use all yours resources they should shut down your page and wait for improving plan/adding credit card details.

I would not like to pay for something which was advertised as free (don't have a nervous for paying without hard limit for home project, I can host it even on rasberry pi + pay just for address). That's why I find it is better to not use your real name as long you don't want to make real business :(

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