Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars • Hacker News Board

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 4:51 AM UTC

porkbeer wrote: post #825

Dylan16807 wrote: post #814

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> Parity means you can charge your car in 5 minutes and then drive 3-400 miles, as you can in a gas car, access to repair facilities, and an average lifetime equivalent to regular cars. So yes, it sounds like your definition of "parity" means it can do everything a gas car can and more. If electric cars were first, would you demand that gas cars need to be able to power your house to reach "parity"? I don't think you…

Electric cars have been around 150 years. Yes, parity means... parity in practicaluty to the end user.

There are multiple kinds of practicality where electric cars do better, and you're skipping them for some reason.

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by averageRoyalty » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 9:17 PM UTC

bb123 wrote: post #622

alibarber wrote: post #599

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Yeah - I was getting excited about having booked an EV for my Christmas holiday visiting family in the UK (with Hertz). Fortunately researching charging knocked some sense into me and I switched back to a ICE vehicle. - Even though I was staying in their house there was no way I could charge it without buying an expensive cable, or risking some cheap crap from Amazon (blow up the house or the rental car perhaps?) - E…

> Every damn thing needs an app (and an account and registration - fun if you don't actually live in the country in question). Seriously just put up a charger and a contactless payment reader. Imagine if every petrol pump needed an app to start? May as well go back to having to put pound coins in a meter... This actually isn't true. It is law in the UK that every public charger must have a contactless reader on it. M…

Amusingly in Australia, most car rental companies provide free charging and you can return the car at whatever battery suits. They give you a card to tap, and Tesla Superchargers are probably the most expensive charger you can find.

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by averageRoyalty » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 9:23 PM UTC

m463 wrote: post #467

dcchambers wrote: post #453

Im bullish on EVs but I feel like rental cars are one of the worst places for the current generation of EVs. EVs are best for the types of driving we do on a day-to-day basis. Short commutes in areas we know well. Charge at home over night and 95% of the year you never worry about charging. Renting a car means I'm usually either driving long distances or im somewhere new and I don't know about the local charging infr…

My experience renting a model 3 from hertz was both positive and negative. At first, it was hard since I've never owned a model 3. Even if you are a model 3 owner, you are probably used to using your phone as the key. They give you a keycard. anyway, I didn't know how to lock the doors. finally I figured out the lock symbol on the central display and locked the doors. But when I got out, they were unlocked again. The…

> Hertz did spam me with lots of "get to know the model 3 before your trip" stuff. I should have read it a bit.

It sounds like that would have solved literally all of your problems.

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by averageRoyalty » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 9:40 PM UTC

twobitshifter wrote: post #700

yyyfb wrote: post #685

I rented a Tesla on a recent trip lasting a few days, and I feel there are other reasons for which is a bad rental car than charging. I've rented a lot of cars, but when I got this one I spent ten minutes completely dumbfounded trying to get it going. They gave me a key card but I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Swipe it, I guess, but where? I tried the door, but the pillar? Would've never guessed until looki…

I couldn’t agree more. Tesla has a major problem of not following the standard interaction design of cars. If you have to Google how to do something on your rental car, the designers have failed. Even opening the back door while inside is unorthodox. There’s not a handle to pull, instead it’s a push button that looks like it’s for the window?

> Tesla has a major problem of not following the standard interaction design of cars. If you have to Google how to do something on your rental car, the designers have failed.

I'm not trying to fangirl here, but broadly isn't this seen as innovation when you design things in a new and different way compared to your competition?