Let the OpenAi staff,why not the board replace them with ever willing AIs
OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
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They could make ChatGPT++ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B
“Microsoft Chat 365” Although it would be beautiful if they name it Clippy and finally make Clippy into the all-powerful AGI it was destined to be.
At least in this forum can we please stop calling something that is not even close to AGI, AGI. Its just dumb at this point. We are LIGHT-YEARS away from AGI, even calling an LLM "AI" only makes sense for a lay audience. For developers and anyone in the know LLMs are called machine learning.
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#834It absolutely wont happen, but with the result looking like the death of OpenAI with all staff moving over to the new Microsoft subsidiary it would be an amazing move for OpenAI to just go "screw it, have it all for free" and release everything under MIT to spite Microsoft.
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There's no way to read any of this other than that the entire operation is a clown show. All respect to the engineers and their technical abilities, but this organization has demonstrated such a level of dysfunction that there can't be any path back for it. Say MS gets what it wants out of this move, what purpose is there in keeping OpenAI around? Wouldn't they be better off just hiring everybody? Is it just some kin…
> There's no way to read any of this other than that the entire operation is a clown show. In that reading Altman is head clown. Everyone is blaming the board, but you're no genius if you can't manage your board effectively. As CEO you have to bring everyone along with your vision; customers, employees and the board.
I don't get this take. No matter how good you are at managing people, you cannot manage clowns into making wise decisions, especially if they are plotting in secret (which obviously was the case here since everyone except for the clowns were caught completely off-guard).
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I don't think Microsoft is a loser and likely neither is Altman. I view this a final (and perhaps disparate) attempt from a sidelined chief scientist, Ilya, to prevent Microsoft from taking over the most prominent AI. The disagreement is whether OpenAI should belong to Microsoft or "humanity". I imagine this has been building up over months and as it often is, researchers and developers are often overlooked in strate…
If Google or Elon manages to pick up Ilya and those still loyal to him, it's not obvious that this is good for Microsoft.
Of course the screenwriters are going to find a way to involve Elon in the 2nd season but is the most valuable part the researchers or the models themselves?
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#837HN desperately needs a mega thread, it's only Monday early hours, there is so much drama to come out of this.
Or a new category, like "Ask HN" and "Show HN". Maybe call it "Hot HN" or "Hot " or something like that. Could be used for future hot topics too. If you change the link bold every time a hot topic is trending, it could be even used to show important stuff.
"Hot HN" could be nice it would help avoiding multiple too similar threads
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#839Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no way to read any of this other than that the entire operation is a clown show. All respect to the engineers and their technical abilities, but this organization has demonstrated such a level of dysfunction that there can't be any path back for it. Say MS gets what it wants out of this move, what purpose is there in keeping OpenAI around? Wouldn't they be better off just hiring everybody? Is it just some kin…
Welcome to reality, every operation has clown moments, even the well run ones. That in itself is not critical in mid to long term, but how fast they figure out WTF they want and recover from it. The stakes are gigantic. They may even have AGI cooking inside. My interpretation is relatively basic, and maybe simplistic but here it is: - Ilya had some grievances with Sam Altman's rushing dev and release. And his COI wit…
> They may even have AGI cooking inside.
Too many people quit too quickly unless OpenAI are also absolute masters of keeping secrets, which became rather doubtful over the weekend.
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#840How are Altman and the openai staff not more invested in OpenAI shares?