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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by dingclancy »

crop_rotation wrote: post #349
qgin wrote: post #328

This coming on the heels of the super underwhelming Bard release makes me actually wonder for the first time if Google has the ability to keep up. Not because I doubt their technical capabilities, but because they're just getting out-launched by a big factor.

This might be the biggest threat to Google search (apart from OS vendors changing defaults) in a long long time. One problem Google faces is that they have to make money via search. Several other products are subsidized via search, so taking a hit on search revenue itself is out of the question. Compared to Microsoft which makes money on other stuff, search (and knowledge discovery) is more like a complement, on whic…

The biggest threat to Google is if people stops going to google.com.

It does not matter now if ChatGPT is successful with their product. the fact that you can take these LLMs and put them anywhere EXCEPT google.com, Google is f'd up.

The last generation was creating the habit of going to google.com before jumping off to other websites. That era is over.

I rarely go to google.com now. If the LLM is in ChatGPT + Notion + Office 365 + VSC, opening a browser to type to an address bar is silly.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by eh9 »

It's incredible to me that Siri and Google Assistant have been around for as long as they have, but Bing will probably be the first service that'll turn your "Book a flight to SF tomorrow" prompt into an actual flight.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by jaimex2 »

It's sad to think the real reason were all loving ChatGPT is the current Internet is so full of crap. Ads and SEO everywhere - page 3 gets the result youre looking for.

I bet ChatGPT and equivalents will be rubbish soon. It'll segway the answer to an ad before giving what you are after.

Enjoy it while it's good and trying to build a user base, like all big tech things.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by operatingthetan »

eh9 wrote: post #832

It's incredible to me that Siri and Google Assistant have been around for as long as they have, but Bing will probably be the first service that'll turn your "Book a flight to SF tomorrow" prompt into an actual flight.

I'm surprised there haven't been rumblings about Google using Bard to update Assistant yet. Then again, it's Google.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by dingclancy »

bottlepalm wrote: post #232
akavi wrote: post #55

I've got to wonder, how does a second player in the LLM space even get on the board? Like, this feels a lot like when the iPhone jumped out to grab the lion share of mobile. But the switching costs was much smaller (end users could just go out and buy an Android phone), and network effects much weaker (synergy with iTunes and the famous blue bubbles... and that's about it). Here it feels like a lot of the value is em…

I don't see much of a moat currently, or even developer lockin. The current APIs, and this new plugin architecture are dead simple.

How about training data from interactions just by sheer usage numbers? Google does not have that.

There is a reason why the quality of ChatGPT responses are better. RLHF.I am not sure though how Google can be 3x better than OpenAI to make user switch now. They are so slow, they should be the one building the plugins.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by stormcode »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I dig the Hackers reference.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by jimmaswell »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

> 1987

Don't you mean August 10, 1988?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by patcon »

chatmasta wrote: post #418
jehb wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The faster we build the future, the better. Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

When in human history have we ever intentionally not furthered technological progress? It's simply an unrealistic proposition, especially when the costs of doing it are so low that anyone with sufficient GPU power and knowledge of the latest research can get pretty close to the cutting edge. So the best we can hope for is that someone ethical is the first to advance that technological progress. I hope you wouldn't ad…

How about when sidewalk labs tried to buy several acres of downtown Toronto to "build a city from the internet up", and local resident groups said "fuck you find another guinea pig"?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by HeavyStorm »

chatmasta wrote: post #353
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> So why the performative whinging about safety?

Because investors.

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