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What if it's just a narcissist? What if it's a combination of both? He's made blantent antisemitic remarks and yet his popularity among the right grows
> He's made blatant antisemitic remarks and yet his popularity among the right grows. You say this as if the latter isn't a direct result of the former.
There's a really concerning trend on HN and elsewhere I'm seeing. Everyone now seems to think free speech is too dangerous to try and promote anymore. It's been a shift over a couple years. I'm not supporting Ye or any of his bullshit, but some of the comments on here are really chillingly authoritarian. Parler isn't going to be able to maintain "free speech" even if they or Kanye want it to, which I seriously doubt…
The idea that it's important to have a mainstream and consequence-free venue for all forms of speech may be your belief but it is not mine. My belief is that public forums with reach into the tens or hundreds of millions are fertile ground for nationalist and genocidal movements, and they will be used for that purpose if it is not actively prevented . Moderation of wide-reach public forums with the goal of preventing…
Yes, we must crush all opposition so your side can have absolute power!!!
Let them speak?
Not one chance, where shall you draw the line? Where only your side wishes to draw the line, of course. Perhaps, the only choice then is to crush the other side, for if you don't they will use the forum for "nationalist and genocidal movements". So you see, they must be eliminated in their entirety. Wiped from the existence of all forums, wiped from participation in establishing truths. Or maybe, since they always seem to find support, always seem to find people willing to fight for the rights they represent, always seem to come back when you try to silence and silence and silence every mouth that exists, instead of repeatedly ineffectively trying to suffocate a voice that wishes to speak, maybe what you need to do is to eliminate them all, all of them from existence. This is the only way you will ever prevent genocide.
I think others may be missing the fact of why Kanye could be buying Parler - Kanye just had his bank account closed by JP Morgan (for what appears to be his beliefs) https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/13/kanye-west-bank-jp-morgan-end... - Kanye was kicked off instagram & twitter https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-ins... - It's still unclear exactly why both occurred. Supposedly it's antisemitism, but h…
> - It's still unclear exactly why both occurred. Supposedly it's antisemitism, but he also just wore a "white lives matter" shirt Ye saying he's "going to go defcon 3 on the Jews" is absolutely antisemitic and absolutely why he got restricted on Twitter. [0] That's the tweet that was received moderation, and its subject matter is very clear. I don't see how one could be unclear of why that got removed or unclear tha…
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>> that gives the impression of a deep understanding of the human psyche when in reality it shows at best the ability to memorize the criteria around a few invented categories and give a horoscope based off of them. This is ad hominem. You are ignoring what is said and making a personal attack. That is what ad hominem is, ignoring the argument and attacking the man. > Do you apply this... This is ad hominem. > I don'…
I think the basic assumption is that you are diagnosing someone that you do not know and have never met, and that by doing so, you are engaging in folly.
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> but I can see almost anyone falling into the exact same trap hes fallen into if they lived his life. Kanye is a garden variety manic-depressive. It has likely been exacerbated by stress and self-medicating with the wrong drugs, causing instability, paranoia and delusion. Bipolar disorder is genetic, it doesn't develop due to no one being able to say "no" to them. What you are describing, however, is one way that Na…
> Bipolar disorder is genetic It is not. The question has been settled on a huge scale by historical events. If illnesses like bipolar disorder or schizophrenia were meaningfully caused by genetic factors, then the Nazi genocide of mentally ill people would have caused a dramatic and lasting reduction in mental illness post-war among the affected population. It didn't. You might also ask yourself, if something is gen…
The social construction of the category is embodied by the admission process at a hospital's mental ward. They literally go down the various causes that they can check for a disordered mental state, and if they can't find anything else, that is mental illness, end of story. In fact, lots of abnormal blood tests may be ignored if they don't fit into an obvious pattern.
The meaning of the term is defined by what people with the power to assign it do. There is no abstract essence of it beyond the process as enacted.
It's a label that serves a critical function of allowing society to abandon difficult diagnoses and redirect resources to others permanently. It doesn't represent an illness, but the lack of understanding what it is. This is not at all the same as the (unknown) constituent disorders being unphysical or one single entity.
It's sort of like the "scientific creationists" that keep finding God in the gaps of science. There's always something left, but either you have faith in naturalistic explanations or not. If you aren't satisfied with science, you can't talk as though there is such a thing as scientific fact about the scientifically unknown, and implicitly lump it all together.
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Is there a reason you call it a grift? Or "bad actors"?
Candace Owens on the home page. If that's not enough to convince you, I know too well that I don't posses the skills to convince you otherwise.
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> but I can see almost anyone falling into the exact same trap hes fallen into if they lived his life. Kanye is a garden variety manic-depressive. It has likely been exacerbated by stress and self-medicating with the wrong drugs, causing instability, paranoia and delusion. Bipolar disorder is genetic, it doesn't develop due to no one being able to say "no" to them. What you are describing, however, is one way that Na…
> Bipolar disorder is genetic It is not. The question has been settled on a huge scale by historical events. If illnesses like bipolar disorder or schizophrenia were meaningfully caused by genetic factors, then the Nazi genocide of mentally ill people would have caused a dramatic and lasting reduction in mental illness post-war among the affected population. It didn't. You might also ask yourself, if something is gen…
Citation needed.
The population of Germany alone in 1940 was over 70M people. The Nazi's killed an estimated 230K disabled individuals, including the physically disabled and the mentally ill. That only accounts for 3 tenths of a percent of the population, but ~50% of any population will be diagnosed with a mental illness at some point in their lifetime, so their efforts were astoundingly insufficient from a mathematical perspective.
But whether someone is bipolar or not is not a simple trait like whether their earlobes are connected or whether they can roll their tongue. A massive genome study identified at least 64 regions of the genome that are associated with an increased risk of bipolar disorder. But even if it were a simple trait, there is such thing as recessive traits, so the Nazi's agenda was, of course, totally insane and could never be successful from a genetic perspective.
Schizophrenia tends to run in families, but no single gene is thought to be responsible. Bipolar disorder is the most likely psychiatric disorder to be passed down genetically. If one parent has bipolar disorder, there's a 10% chance that their child will develop the illness.
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I think the problem lies in the impunity, not in the free speech itself. IMHO people should be allowed to say everything but they must accumulate the reputation for saying it. If someone is a racist bigot, they shouldn't be physically restrained(deleting posts is like physically covering someones' mouth) from being bigots but they should definitely be known for it. Then it's up to the community to decide how to inter…
> Maybe everyone exposed to something should be re-exposed to the theme once there's a new development. This doesn't work. Show people two articles, one that is false and one that is true, and most people will say the one that aligns with their priors is true. We need to either teach people to recognize fake news, censor fake news, or accept that basically everyone will believe false propaganda. There are no other op…
Do you have cause to believe that repeated exposure to every side of every story won't lead the average person towards truth?
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I really wish people understood this more. Anecdotally, I'll never forget the time I was around him and some of his people. This when he was just coming up as a rapper but well known to be a producer. Just a little club appearance, and there was some odd technical issue. I've never seen a human being who more obviously "sought the approval of others." He has this weird negative charisma; like there are some people wh…
No wonder he's tried running for president. Seems to be a trend amongst narcissists.
That said, most presidents have had qualifications other than narcissism.
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I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it sounds like the sort of thing people make up for their own personal narrative. It reminds me of when people say things like "the doctor told me I only had a year to live" - which is something no doctor would actually say because its a massive legal liability,…
Parent commenter is reading too much into Kanye's first struggles to become a rapper in light of this Parler purchase. But parent commenter is right that no one saw Kanye as a rapper initially. Back then, Kanye was only known as a beatsmith and producer, not someone to actually be on the track. Kanye has a song off his album College Graduation where he talks about his initial troubles[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/w…