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Or perhaps I authored the reply when the replies were heavily in favor. For someone with a history and karma to reflect it here, your cynicism and snark doesn't serve you well in this instance.
I wasn't being snarky. I was merely pointing out that the situation had changed since you made your observation. No need to turn that into personal attacks.
Consider that the verbiage chosen is very easily construed as snark, or at worst a personal affront. If you meant neither, better words could have been chosen.
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We have a word for "blocking infrastructure" as a form of protest: civil disobedience. I'm sympathetic to (some) of the aims of the protesters but I think they've made their point and should go home. Still, this move by Trudeau seems like an overreaction considering there's been little/no violence.
Civil disobedience as I support it is a non-violent action. A lot of people cite these protestors as "non-violent" but there have been many incidences of protestors attacking or intimidating residents as well as intimidating the police to resist enforcement actions so I don't regard the current occupation in Ottawa as meeting that threshold. I think that anyone following closely would have to concede that police cond…
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I don't support the convoy, but this still makes me extremely uncomfortable. This is an actual extreme measure. When his father used it, he JAILED communists and "suspected terrorists" in Montreal for more than 24 hours without any evidence, effectively suppressing their rights. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis > police officials sometimes abused their powers without just cause, and some prominent ar…
And Canadian Reddit is full of people demanding that Justin Trudeau echo his father's words.
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Abortion is not in any way comparable with this issue. Do not try and force some 'common ground' argument where is isn't one.
Abortion is far more serious. Abortion always directly ends a human life. Not getting vaccinated creates at most an indirect increase in the probability of other people getting sick and dying—probably a minuscule fraction of one life. Many decisions we make every day have similar statistical effects—taking an international flight which kills people through pollution, or buying products the production of which creates…
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Polling whether rights should be suspended is dangerous. I know nothing of Canadian law, but in the US if 2/3 polled said a peaceful protest should be broken up by the military. The response should condemnation and reassertion of our unalienable rights.
This is not a peaceful protest. There have been multiple documented assaults on the street and of people in the service industry. There were several attempts to burn down residential buildings full of people. The protestors have violated injunctions against making noises at volumes that are harmful to people's hearing, and depriving people of sleep.
I just don't see reconciliation as a result of this emergencies act process.
My bets would be on a ratcheting up of controls over internet services, hyper aggressive financial services and tax enforcement, over the top surveillance exampples as threats, a miasma of staged and real "random" violence, escalating hit jobs and cancellations of the reasonable and principled, an official pivot to "fighting hate/terror" as a permanent emergency, etc.
The only question to me is whether a new class of plausible leaders emerges to replace the terrible ones responsible for this nonsense, or decades of low level conflict with a radicalized populace vs. a state that has more international support than national legitimacy. The only out is removing internal passport controls and mandates. The alterative is clear. Such interesting times.
I’m not in Ottowa and I feel like I’m not sure what to believe here. On one hand, if the protests really were peaceful, I do not believe the government should shut them down. On the other hand, I’ve heard the protests have caused millions in trade to be shut down which I would not consider a peaceful act. If some non-citizen entity shut down millions in trade, I don’t think it would be viewed as peaceful. Should the…
Trudeau, like many members of the political class, treat the messiness of democracy as a bug when it is in fact a feature. The core purpose of liberal democracy, understood by any political science undergrad, is to _limit_ power - the tyranny of the majority, the executive branch etc... Yet this is poorly understood by a class of individuals who exclusively do politics as a way of earning a living (ex. Trudeau, Liz T…
China 'bug free' implementation is complete B.S. Only good news (TM) comes out of China but it doesn't mean everything there is going alright. This is because 1. the media is heavily censored and 2. Chinese do not use Twitter/FB/Youtube and as a result do not reach the rest of the world. Also: China handled the pandemic way better than the West. Source that China is not bug-free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAM…
"bug free" in the sense that the leaders of more authoritarian states are much less constrained by strong insitutional safeguards on individual rights, constitutions, etc. and that Trudeau and many politicians in western nations are jealous of their authoritatrian counterpart's ability to run roughshod over their citizenry
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Yet this is exactly what was being done to these truckers prior to their actions.
Isn’t that also the US side policy? That the United States demands that Canadian truckers also be vaccinated?