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Re: Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab, but feared debate could hurt

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Post by chiefalchemist » Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 9:40 PM UTC

s5300 wrote: post #694

chiefalchemist wrote: post #688

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So we had a stockpile that wasn't a stockpile, that wasn't effective? That ran out in no time at all? That's some great spin. Thanks.

I’ll leave anybody who comes across this discourse a simple Google “Trump administration stockpile budget cuts” and stop attempting to discuss in good faith with you, who apparently really wants to be right on the internet when they’re completely wrong.

Again, fair. But it still doesn't answer the question:

We were clearly - and across multiple administrations - under prepared...why? And why is no one (read: media) seriously asking why?

That is, again for example, even an undepleted stockpile wasn't going to be enough.

Re: Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab, but feared debate could hurt

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Post by hkt » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 1:31 AM UTC

sol_invictus wrote: post #522

hkt wrote: post #478

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That "ideology" originates in the US, namely in black communities that have been marginalised since slavery. No need for conspiracy theories about China somehow causing wokeness and antiracism.

It most certainly does not originate from the black community, but leftist liberal white academics. Blacks have certainly adopted the cause but they are not the ones stirring most of the ridiculousness we are seeing.

A view that is both incorrect and racist.

For example, "intersectionality" was coined by this black academic:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberl%C3%A9_Williams_Crens...

There are many more examples of black activists and scholars who have pioneered this way of seeing the world. Ascribing that work to white scholars denies the people actually doing the work agency, and to reiterate, is racist.

Re: Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab, but feared debate could hurt

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Post by hypnotortoise » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 10:30 PM UTC

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #724

afpx wrote: post #717

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A scientist parks her car under a tree, everyday. Occasionally, branches fall off and scratch her car. Today, she goes outside and sees that her window is smashed. She looks around to find the branch that smashed her window but can't find it. She notices some kids playing baseball nearby. They look guilty. However, scientist rules that the window was broken by a branch because strong prior knowledge.

>> However, scientist rules that the window was broken by a branch because strong prior knowledge. Prior knowledge doesn't stop you from forming new hypotheses, otherwise we wouldn't be going anywhere. The way it works is, you make an observation, you form a hypothesis to explain the observations based on prior knowledge and then you test your hypothesis with new observations. Ideally you look for observations that a…

If an offender removes key elements from your observation (or in the example adding a branch beside the scientists car) you will not even consider to form a new hypothesis? That's quite convenient for those kids.