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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by shbooms »

d3nj4l wrote: post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

> Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests that they may be adding Face ID in a future iteration.

I agree it's probably designed with a future FaceID implementation in mind but if this isn't the case, Dell have managed to move their camera back up above the screen on the latest XPS's. In my opinion, this is the best looking option currently:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81FV+91am5L._AC_SL1500_....

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by alienalp »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

First gen of m1 mac was first Apple product that i bought. I can't say i like Apple ecosystem or macos. I am opposite of Apple fanboy. I don't like Apple and this price they made me pay another reason for it but simply anybody who want and who can afford will buy it. There aren't any alternatives.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by xanaxagoras »

mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

> Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop.

Not unless they disabled all of the spying in MacOS. Doesn't matter if you bought it, it still isn't yours. Hard pass.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25078034&p=2

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by fomine3 »

cactus2093 wrote: post #697
d3nj4l wrote: post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

> All the ports you could ever want I agree with everything else you said and I think overall these machines will be awesome. I would disagree with you on the ports though, I think this is kind of a miss for Apple. They caved into some of the loudest complaints from several years ago which were already coming from a loud minority and that minority is now smaller than ever. And if they were set on changing the ports t…

> (HDMI used to be useful for plugging into a projector for presentations, that use-case is now nearly non-existent now that all meetings tend to happen over zoom, webex, teams, hangouts, etc. even when in-person. HDMI used to be useful for monitors but increasingly displayport over usb-c is supported by everything except the lowest end monitors.

> the cheap $400 monitor market.

I found your employer is great and you're rich.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by skohan »

swat535 wrote: post #828
ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

> Seems the value isn't quite there I'm curious, what exactly is this machine missing in your opinion and given the choice, what would you go with other than the recently introduced MacbookPro ?

I can't speak for the other commenter, but for me the M1 air is so good I wouldn't feel the need to pay several times more for a "pro" machine.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by abraxas »

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

>Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015.

If it's the same as the 2020 then no. It's better than the butterfly but not as good as the 2015

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by mcculley »

RandallBrown wrote: post #811
mcculley wrote: post #810

Still no LTE modem. The Apple Watch can be configured with an LTE modem, but the highest-end MacBook Pro cannot. Is this because of Qualcomm royalties? Is there any technical reason why the market has failed?

I imagine it's because tethering with your phone is good enough for the vast majority of people.

Why does Dell ship with one?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by fomine3 »

Sephr wrote: post #780
mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

Bringing back a dedicated HDMI port is a downgrade. This port can only do 4K 60Hz HDR (implying HDMI 2.0), which is inferior to previously-supported standards in addition to taking up space as a single-purpose port. The Intel MacBook Pro 16 supports DisplayPort 1.4 over USB-C, which can do 4K 98Hz HDR, and doesn't take up dedicated single-purpose ports.

Theoretically Apple could implement HDMI 2.1 that supports 4K/120Hz and above with DSC. Maybe they think HDMI is just for a compatibility.
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