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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by quantumBerry »

nemothekid wrote: post #691
jliptzin wrote: post #432

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I don’t understand why they don’t just use Bitcoin or some other crypto, seems like this is the exact use case it was designed for

> I don’t understand why they don’t just use Bitcoin or some other crypto, seems like this is the exact use case it was designed for The most popular options, BTC & ETH, are incredibly expensive for $20 subscription payments.

So pay with LTC or XMR instead? There are plenty of high liquidity coins with low transaction fees, these are just a couple examples. If the alternative is to not cam at all it seems pretty obvious, even if you are unbanked and get hit with 7% fees from an ATM or crypto-fiat in person moneychanger.

It's also trivial to exchange BTC to LTC (or other low fee coin), you don't even need KYC or in some cases to even use an exchange (atomic swap BTC-LTC). So the cam girls could take fees in LTC and then swap them to BTC once they have enough value to be worth the transactional costs.

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Post by anothernewdude »

tacLog wrote: post #674
Sebb767 wrote: post #505

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I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I found this site from the torrentfreak link below and thought it was pretty cool. https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/annual/2021 If you flip thru the years at least the top movies in 2018 have more downloads than the top movies in 2021. I think that can somewhat safely answer your questions. EDIT: WRONG because as a comment points out below older movies also might just have been downloaded more over time. From…

I don't torrent when I pirate anymore (or use usenet). Torrent stats might be going down because there are easier alternatives.

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Post by app4soft »

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

> My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit

Here is Twitter event by Tech Insider.[0,1]

[0] https://twitter.com/TechInsider/status/1430654887327682565

[1] https://twitter.com/TechInsider/events/1430648239171198984

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Post by ManBlanket »

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

I guess that's on you for attempting to conceptually limit the the wellspring of internet angst 4chan, incel, reddit, and twitter have become.

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Post by ipaddr »

rejectedandsad wrote: post #729
laputan_machine wrote: post #306

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So sick of seeing these wildly inflated numbers, they increase after every post I'm sure. Most of us here who are software devs are not earning close to 150k, stop using a few SF salaries as the baseline for the rest of us. It is really annoying.

I make $200k as a mid-level and that’s considered low. I’m not in NYC. Side note - fan of your username.

What languages do you use?

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Post by morei »

pelasaco wrote: post #352
lugged wrote: post #257

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You know Devs can relatively easily get around 250k in NY / SF right? Trades are solid career choices but it's hard work and you expire at about the same rate as a software dev.

Ok, but I'm not from NY/SF but I'm assuming based on the small amount of time that I spent there, that every thing is more expensive there, including housing and medical care... In Germany (Europe?) I would say that a Software Developer salary floats between 30k/y - 100k/y.

Google has an office in Frankfurt, and SWEs there get paid far more than 30k - 100k/yr. The comp delta between google SF SWE and google Frankfurt SWE is less than 30% (at same level obv).

I totally agree that the non-FAANG companies have terrible dev pay. But most of the FAANG companies have offices well beyond just SF/NYC, so the opportunities are definitely available.

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Post by r00fus »

throwawaylolx wrote: post #721
bcheung wrote: post #692

The damage is already done. I was doing a photoshoot at my house with 2 models that have OnlyFans accounts. When the news hit they literally signed up for other platforms within an hour. The other platforms are capitalizing on the news and finding ways to make migration to their platform as easy as possible.

So now they'll come back because OF still has the larger community.

I hear their cut is lower too, like 20% vs larger for the 2nd largest platform.

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Post by moksly »

gambiting wrote: post #689
moksly wrote: post #225

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There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to. So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services. As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platfo…

Facebook reports over one million(!!!) images of child sexual abuse on their platform per year, and that's only the stuff that they identify and find. Clearly it's a platform where a huge amount of illegal materials are being exchanged, yet Visa and MasterCard happily keep Facebook as a client. >>but there is no denying that vetting that every OnlyFan sexworker is a task they can’t likely perform easily. Just make ev…

What prevents abuse after posting a valid ID?

Unless you’re paying for the images on Facebook the transfer isn’t being used to pay for illegal sex. This is the difference between the two in terms of liability.

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Post by busymom0 »

pornel wrote: post #668
dmix wrote: post #365

> He said BNY Mellon “flagged and rejected” every wire transfer linked to the firm, while Britain’s Metro Bank in 2019 closed OnlyFans’ corporate account with short notice So it wasn’t just the credit card merchants but wire transfers and corporate bank accounts. So stupid… at least CC merchants can blame chargebacks or something. I guess it’d help if laws were clarified, in the UK where they are based as well. Maybe…

Maybe because British Board of Film Censors jurisdiction has been extended to online porn, and face-sitting and fisting is banned in the UK? (although that ban is older than OnlyFans itself) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-30454773

Is British board of film censors considered a government entity? Is so, then aren't those considered part of free expression?

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Post by moksly »

marktangotango wrote: post #270
moksly wrote: post #225

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There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to. So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services. As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platfo…

Coinbase (and other financial services) do a pretty good job of requiring photo id on signup; I don't know what OF procedure is, but there's definitly precedent.

Does that solve the issue though? If you’re trafficking human beings you could probably use their old ID to sign them up and then still commit the crime afterwards.
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