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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by jodrellblank »

jackhack wrote: post #477
shuntress wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The description "free speech social network" is very heavily associated with far right extremists. Much like, for example, the gadsden flag.

if free speech is only for the enemy, I fear what victory looks like.

Someone recommends you some games, about one they say "it has a simulated theme park with intricate rollercoaster building engine and you compete with other theme parks for customers", about another they say "you're trying to build a rocket to the moon but it's really challenging", and about another they say "the interface responds to mouse clicks".

"if a working interface is only for bad games, I fear what good games look like"

Good games have working interfaces too, but they have a lot more worth talking about.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by malwrar »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #582
malwrar wrote: post #333

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> why wouldn't you host it yourselves Running a datacenter, especially at scale, is expensive as hell. Cloud is also expensive, but in return you get the ability to not need to think about hardware anymore. Prior to last week they probably assumed that AWS et. al. wouldn't have just suddenly cut them off, so they didn't factor in that risk except as a distant possibility. Up until a week ago we all were scared of FAA…

> Running a datacenter, especially at scale, is expensive as hell. I helped build one out, which was later acquired, but I wouldn't think it would take more than a couple of cages of equipment in a colo facility to host Parler, especially in these relatively early days. Maybe I'm completely out of touch.

I suppose it depends on what their backend actually looks like. Someone quoted in the data leak thread that they spent ~300k/mo on AWS which suggests they're definitely past a few cages of equipment. Who knows though, AWS charges insane rates for the privilege of not needing to think about hardware and making trivial difficult problems like establishing geographic presence or redundancy across datacenters. Parler is probably going to eventually need to self host anyways though, and then we'll see what a popular website will look like when it goes back to doing things the old fashioned way.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by esperent »

VikingCoder wrote: post #606
marcinzm wrote: post #494

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Personally, when I discuss politics online I don't expect the other person to acknowledge anything. My audience is all the people on the fence lurking and reading and forming opinions on the topic.

Agreed. I will admit that it's draining, talking to one user who keeps moving the goal-posts. And I will then say that I think it's their intention to drain people like me. So I try to shrug it off and keep refuting arguments with the evidence they pretend they will be convinced by.

As one (non-American) lurker who is reading this thread to try and get a handle on just what the hell is going on over there, thank you for putting the energy in, and please don't give up.

It's clear that you are arguing in good faith and the other person who keeps moving the goalposts and demanding more proof is not, and moreover it's very enlightening to see this scenarios played out nearly identically whenever I lurk and follow a discussion between the left and right in US politics.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by spiralx »

austincheney wrote: post #298
vsareto wrote: post #108

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>and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. Fairly sure we could replace algorithm and data structure whiteboard interviews with security interviews and we'd all be better off

I am certain most software engineers would abysmally fail the Security+ exam, which is the entry level for security practice. But a far more expedient process is to just give candidates an essay exam to see if they are functionally literate in their profession.

My go to question for interviewing candidates is "What trends do you see in web development now or you see being important in the next few years?". There's no right answer there, I'm just looking for something relevant that shows they've got some knowledge of the field outside of being able to bash out code to order. For juniors I don't really expect much while seniors should at least be able to talk a bit about a couple of things, but having interviewed prospective head of development candidates I was amazed that two out of four just tanked on the question, one just couldn't answer at all.

Candidates who know there are things they don't know about I don't mind, but candidates who are unaware of these things at all are typically uninterested in broadening their knowledge, and not someone I'd like on my team.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ausbah »

mcast wrote: post #373

I tried to sign up for Parler out of curiosity when I heard it was being removed from app stores, but as soon as it required a phone number for account registration I deleted the app. I'm surprised it also didn't require a social security number and credit card as well. /s

some parts of the site apparently require a SSN and drivers lisence

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mleonhard »

no-s wrote: post #816
mleonhard wrote: post #486

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I don't understand your claim that terrorists are a threat to our democracy. As long as most of the people in the country believe in democracy, the country will continue to have democracy. The real threat to democracy is allowing leaders to stop following the democratic process. For example, on 02021-01-06, 147 congresspeople voted to throw out the votes from an entire state, even after their party had pursued the ap…

>>147 congresspeople voted to throw out the votes from an entire state, even after their party had pursued the appropriate legal remedies Hey wait, they had the opportunity to vote their conscience on it? Does that mean they were Constitutionally empowered to raise and decide the question? The USA is a republic, and explicitly not a democracy, said status having been debated early on and pure democracy was found seri…

No. The constitution does not allow them to throw out votes.

A republic is a form of democracy. Arguing semantics has no place in HN.

And "vote their conscience" is a weasel phrase. They had a duty to tally the votes, a procedure to follow. Some of them didn't want to follow the procedure. Changing the procedure requires a constitutional amendment, agreement from a supermajority of states. Regardless of their individual thoughts on the matter, the laws of the land do not allow them to vote to disregard the law.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by grawprog »

ibrault wrote: post #793
grawprog wrote: post #785

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Private messages are public? Also, it's hard to tell from the article, but it seems like there's phone.numbers and id involved as well.

I have not seen any indication that private messages are included in this. As the person indicates, phone numbers are only included if they were posted on Parler by the users themselves, but yes from what I can tell the IDs are the most "private" part of the leak. Although one could argue that they are still "public" given that Parler publicly exposed the information.

I have to point out. Messages being leaked is actually in the title of the article.

>70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by newacct583 »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #370
newacct583 wrote: post #88

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Parler was ground zero for the community that announced and executed the attack on the capitol. Thought leaders there were routinely evoking, imagining, and outright calling for violence, and the crowd was a feedback loop. Fundamentally the Parler community existed to provide a platform for people who had been already banned from Twitter. Frankly the peaceful use of the site was mostly incidental. I think there's a r…

Do you have evidence that more violent activity was planned on Parler than Facebook or Twitter, or even a disproportionate amount? Edit: I suppose not.

Lin Wood called for Pence to be executed. This got shared a ton (like tens of thousands of times). A few days later there was a mob in the capitol chanting "Hang Mike Pence!".

Lin Wood didn't say that on Twitter, because he had been previously banned on Twitter for similar rhetoric. Not sure about his status on Facebook, but Parler was absolutely where this stuff was happening.

The denial here is just wild. Like... this is all over the news.

Edit: some collated examples that just went by on my twitter feed, including the Wood threat: https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1348463074295107585

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by malandrew »

awb wrote: post #570
Wintamute wrote: post #534

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I think the point is that you don't need to make "negative posts" about those topics, rather discussing them from any angle that isn't the accepted progressive orthodoxy results in the ban hammer.

> discussing them from any angle that isn't the accepted progressive orthodoxy results in the ban hammer What are some examples of this?

No dog in this particular fight as I don't care either way but to answer your question: I've seen plenty of examples involving TERFs or questioning transgender women in women's sports where the ban hammer was brought out.

Another example is being egalitarian instead of equitarian. Being strictly egalitarian gets you labeled racist pretty quickly in many online forums. Just this past week in my neighborhood Buy Nothing group someone put up an item and made it available only to BIPOC people. Some people called it out as discriminatory and antithetical to community-building. They got called racist and accused of white fragility and were both muted for two weeks. No one on the side of orthodoxy got muted.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mleonhard »

hannasanarion wrote: post #605
mleonhard wrote: post #580

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Can you please explain how they were enabling the terrorists? Did the congresspeople get the Capitol Police to stand down? Even if they did, that is a separate thing from throwing out votes. The country could have terrorist acts every day and still have democracy. Our congresspeople could have their meetings in an underground bunker, wear body armor all the time, and travel in armored vehicles, and it would still be…

Lauren Boebert was livetweeting the location of Pence and Pelosi so that the mob could "get her".

That crime is separate from trying to throw out votes.
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