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Post by i_am_new_here »

fileeditview wrote: post #547
throwawaylolx wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It gets even worse: https://twitter.com/joemfbrown/status/1338452107419148290 >I’m sitting here in the dark in my toddler’s room because the light is controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking... a lot right now. Some people are compiling more relevant events: https://twitter.com/internetofshit

I still like my physical switch on the wall to turn the light on and off very much.. for me it's hard to beat. I can even turn it on/off semi-remotely with e.g. a tennis ball.

If my Alexa fails, then I can also just turn the light off with the switch and when flipped back "on" again, then it will be on.

Fallback to 'classical mode' works for me.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by gizmondo »

vacheron wrote: post #825
xtracto wrote: post #790

On reddit thread there are some really good jokes about this [1] related to their asinine interview questions. Like: > Did they try to fix them by inverting a binary tree? >> Yeah maybe implementing a quick LRU cache on the nearest whiteboard will help them out here >> Did they try checking what shape their manhole cover is? >> Dev ops was too busy out counting all the street lights in the United States [1] https://w…

AFAIK (as someone who does not work at Google), "brain teaser" questions have not been asked at Google for almost a decade. Every time I see complaints like this I can't help but think the posters have a chip on their shoulder from being rejected by Google or a similarly selective company. It's never a commentary on any fundamental issues with these types of interview questions and no one ever comes up with a better…

If we're talking about FAANG, I don't believe that they really care about "the process of solving the problem". If you don't come up with a close-to-optimal solution in about 5 minutes, you're in trouble - there will be competitors who are better prepared and thus can. Solving algorithmic questions is a very trainable skill, after all.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by danuker »

mk89 wrote: post #819
rachelbythebay wrote: post #803

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Your nines or their nines? I bet if you personally can't use it, but their overall reliability meets the bar, then they're within SLA. Don't ask why I know this.

You know there are companies who build crawlers or health check agents exactly for this purpose, so that they know precisely from when to when the service they pay or they need for their business doesn't work and went out of SLA. I think it's brilliant and the only way to make any company pay. I believe you can sometimes get away with a couple of pingdom checks/jobs.

Like they have any bargaining power against Google.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by psully »

gizmondo wrote: post #833
vacheron wrote: post #825

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK (as someone who does not work at Google), "brain teaser" questions have not been asked at Google for almost a decade. Every time I see complaints like this I can't help but think the posters have a chip on their shoulder from being rejected by Google or a similarly selective company. It's never a commentary on any fundamental issues with these types of interview questions and no one ever comes up with a better…

If we're talking about FAANG, I don't believe that they really care about "the process of solving the problem". If you don't come up with a close-to-optimal solution in about 5 minutes, you're in trouble - there will be competitors who are better prepared and thus can. Solving algorithmic questions is a very trainable skill, after all.

Funnily enough, this response is exactly what the parent seems to be talking about. FAANG originated as a stock term and not as a grouping of companies with similar hiring processes. i.e. Interviews at Netflix are generally domain specific. Likewise, Amazon isn't the same as Apple isn't the same as Google.

> If you don't come up with a close-to-optimal solution in about 5 minutes

Disingenuously hyperbolic. I was only given a single problem to solve in each of my 45 minute "coding rounds" at Google and Facebook. If you approach these interviews like a competitive coding competition you will absolutely not get the job. By that I mean arriving at a non-optimal solution as fast as possible while writing messy code and not explaining your thought process. Not to mention that senior roles involve an increasing number of interviews that focus on design rather than algorithmic questions.

This all seems like nonsense coming from individuals who are (understandably or not) frustrated at an interview process that doesn't align with their strengths.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by sellyme »

sn41 wrote: post #745
rightbyte wrote: post #648

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Google doesn't disable ordinary rulefollowing accounts by mistake. They are aware of the false positive rate and don't care.

I agree, but the problem is that "ordinary rulefollowing" is not clearly defined by Google. Perhaps it was that innocent park frisbee party video with a Metallica sound played in the background by some other party there... and not only your video, but also your YouTube account, and worse, email account gets blocked. Maybe this scenario is dystopian - the point is that it is a black-box no-appeal/limited appeal system…

Google account terminations typically only affect the one service. If your YouTube account gets terminated for ToS violations, your email account will still work perfectly fine.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by LdSGSgvupDV »

ehsankia wrote: post #829
eric_khun wrote: post #669

If you pay for Google Services, they have an SLA (service level agreement) of 99.9% [1]. If their services are down more than 43 minutes this month[2], you can request “free days” of usage. Edit: Services were down from ~12:55pm to ~1:52pm, it's 57minutes. Thanks hiby007 [1] https://workspace.google.com/intl/en/terms/sla.html [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_c...

It seems like they claim around 45m https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/14/gmail-youtube-google-docs-...

Is this official announcement? I don't find any link to google in your posted url.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by dman »

jellykid wrote: post #729
nickjj wrote: post #719

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This topic just came up recently on a podcast I was on where someone said a large service was down for X amount of time and the service being down tanked his entire business while it was down for days. But he was compensated in hosting credits for the exact amount of down time for the 1 service that caused the issue. It took so long to resolve because it took support a while to figure out it was their service, not hi…

I've never seen an SLA that compensates for anything more than credit off your bill. I can't imagine a service that pays for loss of productivity, one outage and the whole company could be bankrupt. If your business depends on a cloud service for productivity you should have a backup plan if that service goes down.

In financial markets I have seen SLA's where you will make people whole on the losses they incur due to downtime you inflict on them.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by mav3rick »

vacheron wrote: post #826
xtracto wrote: post #808

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No? https://twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768?lang=en

This story seems like a bad example of a false negative. There were claims by Google insiders that Max was given a particularly easy interview as a formality. I am by no means a brilliant programmer and also rusty with algorithms, but given the structure and question, I would be surprised if most people couldn't figure out how to invert a binary tree within a matter of minutes. Max himself later opened up[0] and admi…

Don't worry they won't reply to this. Doesn't fit their narrative. Learning CS basics just isn't sexy enough for hacker news. Why learn anything over this.setState in React.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Post by BaiRado »

psully wrote: post #835
gizmondo wrote: post #833

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we're talking about FAANG, I don't believe that they really care about "the process of solving the problem". If you don't come up with a close-to-optimal solution in about 5 minutes, you're in trouble - there will be competitors who are better prepared and thus can. Solving algorithmic questions is a very trainable skill, after all.

Funnily enough, this response is exactly what the parent seems to be talking about. FAANG originated as a stock term and not as a grouping of companies with similar hiring processes. i.e. Interviews at Netflix are generally domain specific. Likewise, Amazon isn't the same as Apple isn't the same as Google. > If you don't come up with a close-to-optimal solution in about 5 minutes Disingenuously hyperbolic. I was only…

Funnily enough, this response is exactly what someone who succeeded under this model would say.

This all seems like nonsense coming from individuals who are (understandably or not) frustrated that others would suggest that their success was only due to an interview process that aligned with their strengths, rather than their obviously superior skill and intellect.

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