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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

This is how all news media operated before the internet created mouthpieces for non-professionals. In addition to suppressing some inconvenient truths they filtered out crackpot ideas that have become a plague in modern times.

hahaha

no, word of mouf always existed. It just found new channels

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#832

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So, how many deaths are you willing to be responsible for? make sure to scale it up to youtube size.

Really disappointed in hacker news today. Children all of you, crying for the right to scream "fire" in a crowded theater.

You know they reverse the opinion on that right? You are legally allowed too.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#833

I guess if this were the 1500s YouTube would only have us post videos that confirm that witches and heretics should be burned at the stake. Maybe it would be okay to talk about a few more crusades. Mankind improves because systems become big, rigid, and unable to evolve. People come along and point that out, suggesting various theories about how those systems got that way, the reasons why they are wrong, and offering…

> Mankind improves because systems become big, rigid, and unable to evolve. People come along and point that out, suggesting various theories about how those systems got that way, the reasons why they are wrong, and offering suggestions for improvement.

Actually, this sounds like "Institutional Sclerosis", which is actually one of the main reasons that nations fail - some structure becomes more important than the welfare of society, be it a leader, some entity (like the military) or great collection of power by few people.

This is exactly the situation that we see today that makes our society unable to evolve, and will guarantee the current slide continues.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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> a very smart bloke with an honest-to-goodness PhD in a virus-related field How do I embolden text on HN? When a person with a PhD is talking about something related to their PhD it is imprudent policy to ban their content because it disagrees with a body who are (a) political, (b) purposefully slow to recommend things and (c) have covered themselves with something a lot less pleasant than glory with their response…

Wrapping with asterisks, with no whitespace, italicizes . I don't think that you can embolden, otherwise.

You can do it using Unicode bold characters:

𝗔𝗕𝗖𝗗𝗘𝗙𝗚𝗛𝗜𝗝𝗞𝗟𝗠𝗡𝗢𝗣𝗤𝗥𝗦𝗧𝗨𝗩𝗪𝗫𝗬𝗭𝗮𝗯𝗰𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗴𝗵𝗶𝗷𝗸𝗹𝗺𝗻𝗼𝗽𝗾𝗿𝘀𝘁𝘂𝘃𝘄𝘅𝘆𝘇

𝟬𝟭𝟮𝟯𝟰𝟱𝟲𝟳𝟴𝟵 🞷‭

And bold italics:

𝘼𝘽𝘾𝘿𝙀𝙁𝙂𝙃𝙄𝙅𝙆𝙇𝙈𝙉𝙊𝙋𝙌𝙍𝙎𝙏𝙐𝙑𝙒𝙓𝙔𝙕𝙖𝙗𝙘𝙙𝙚𝙛𝙜𝙝𝙞𝙟𝙠𝙡𝙢𝙣𝙤𝙥𝙦𝙧𝙨𝙩𝙪𝙫𝙬𝙭𝙮𝙯

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#835

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So would you support banning everyone on YouTube who went against WHO’s tweet[1] saying there’s no evidence of human to human transmission? That was only in January. https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-sayin...

First of all, this is about “YouTube banning 'medically unsubstantiated' content.” as well as content that “would go against World Health Organization recommendations,” which (if those guidelines are followed) doesn’t mean banning of people or discourse, but rather disinformation. Secondly, the WHO tweeted that, but had actually already acknowledged human-to-human transmission multiple times[1][2] in the days before…

Content that goes "against World Health Organization recommendations" is not necessarily misinformation though.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#836
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Free speech (well, most freedoms, really) will die the day we decide "saving lives" is worth _any_ cost. Heck, we already decided trashing the economy is worth "saving lives" (how many?), I imagine some people would be overjoyed to remove the 1st amendment in order to lower disease spread, lower the suicide rate of those vulnerable to hate speech, etc. And why stop there? Remove 2nd amendment and you can save even mo…

> Heck, we already decided trashing the economy is worth "saving lives" (how many?), People dropping dead in the streets will trash the economy.

What's the point of supporting the current economic model if it doesn't support human welfare? What's the point of any of our abstractions if they don't serve human welfare?

I'm totally in agreement with you.

The pain of economic loss is processed in the emotional and reward centers of the brain. Empathy and compassion, on the other hand, are processed in advanced sections of the brain in the anterior prefrontal lobe. When we are encouraged to think about the stock market all the time, then the emotional centers are allowed to take over, and we forget that people are what's important.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#837

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So, how many deaths are you willing to be responsible for? make sure to scale it up to youtube size.

Really disappointed in hacker news today. Children all of you, crying for the right to scream "fire" in a crowded theater.

Ah, this one again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22914333

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-tim...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#838

Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

This is precisely why this sort of "helpful" censorship is not helpful. The WHO is wrong, plain and simple. There's dozens of studies that very clearly show even home made masks are highly effective in spreading viral diseases.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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post #336

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Some people would like freedom to discuss the coronavirus without being oppressed. They can't on YouTube if this policy takes hold. The sort of people who contradict the WHO happened to be right on this one; they predicted a problem early and tended to pre-empt the WHO on upcoming problems. This was also expected , because the WHO only advises stuff that is already obvious to everyone. Interested parties can offer be…

> This policy will be aimed at exactly people like him. He has been contradicting the authorities all the way. What advice has he given that contradicts the WHO's guidance?

That masks work.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#840

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How are the employees of YouTube or any tech company exempt from those forces? What makes them somehow wiser or smarter than everyone else in history? Just ask them. They'll tell you. And tell you. And tell you.

"We only hire the smartest people ..."

“And by smartest people we mean people that practiced binary search tree implementations for a week prior to their interviews”
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