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Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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TLDR: You can use pluggable transports. It's super difficult to build a low latency mix-net that covertly works inside an adversarial network. In addition to the current models over which onion/garlic routing are based upon you would (at least) need to add to the core of your software traffic obfuscation, a series of covert channels, NAT bypass, ... Tor and other mix networks simplify the problem assuming that there'…

Perhaps we could crowdfund Tor node satellites?

Random thoughts: high latency, costs, vulnerability to spoofing and jamming, distribution of ODUs/IDUs, trust in the owner/manager of the link

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Sure, but some criminal investigators have figured out how to know "what the stuff is". They serve it themselves, and have hashes for the encrypted chunks. As far as "who requested" the stuff, as you say in your other reply, they have some statistical arguments. I agree with the Freenet Project that they're very likely bullshit. However, if you're facing criminal charges, you'd better have resources for expert testim…

AFAIK in the cases of the convicted people, the Freenet stuff was only used to obtain warrants, at which points the cops captured computers and found accessible CP. I don't remember seeing anyone convicted based on the Freenet evidence alone.

Maybe so, but that ex Philly cop is still jailed on contempt, because he says that he's forgotten the disk password.

But generally, I'd rather avoid having a warrant served, and my stuff impounded. So advertising my IP address as a Freenet node seems like a dumb move.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Most content doesn't really need low-latency. If we can develop a good protocol/UI for 'hours-to-days' latency or 'offline' networking, we could just pass thumb drives between ourselves and probably accomplish all of our data transfer needs. Swapping hard drives with a buddy twice a month can be more bandwidth than most mobile contracts.

That's effectively the network setup I have. A long range radio link to a farm in the area that then has an upstream link (again via radio) to a residence that has a fiber connection. The latency can be huge when we have less-that-optimal conditions. Since the throughput is low and the latency high, it's not streaming-video capabl. A buddy downloads a load of movies to an ssd and drops that off every now and then. Fo…

Very cool. I would love it if there was better tooling for using a kbps connection for download/searching file lists and making a 'drop drive request', so you could use your low speed connection to decide what you want on the drive, then buddy could basically just get a list of files to curl, throw em on the drive with new indexes of available file directories.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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As someone who grew up alongside the internet, I wonder if this is just part of the bigger picture of where the internet has always been heading... The bigger, more popular, and ubiquitous it became the more corporate and political powers were going to seek to rule it. Now were are at an age of internet giants with the GDP of small countries, and political elections being swayed by the bovine herds of Facebook and Tw…

Very interesting. If the dark web becomes popular though, won't the same people try to regulate it? They could make .onion link illegal for ISPs to load and kill it overnight.

ISPs never see .onion URLs. They just see encrypted traffic to and among Tor relays. But yes, they could block that.

In this case, it helps if the evil US military actually does use Tor :)

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Depends on how the link tax is played out. If companies are forced to pay a websites owner to link to it, I doubt even Google or Facebook would pay for that considering Google dropped German websites when they tried to get Google to pay them with their own link tax law. Then you'd have your website, but nothing would link to it and you would never get any traffic besides the people you specifically tell about it.

Depends yes. But even if it plays a restrictive tune, what if we use /robots.txt to explicitly tell if the website or specific contents can be freely indexed & linked to? It smells like an opportunity to reboot the Web in a less centralized fashion.

Isn't the link tax only for news sites? Because in that case, it won't affect non-news sites at all, it just means legitimate news sites will become unfindable. The rest of the Web will survive.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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>> Not the biggest, but the richest It depends on what you mean by rich. From a GDP PPP perspective there are issues on short, medium and long term when compared with other countries. For example: China is richer than the whole of the EU (incl UK). US is almost as rich as the EU. India is 1/2 and Japan 1/4. *By rich I mean GDP PPP.

The EU isn't close to as rich as the US, the parent comment was far off the mark. Not only does the US have about ~40% of all the millionaires on earth all by itself, its GDP per capita is 77% higher than the EU ($33,700 per capita per the Worldbank 2017 figures; versus $59,700 that year for the US). Its nominal GDP is also about $2 trillion higher, despite having roughly 200 million fewer people. PPP is a near worth…

PPP is worthless for a business. i totally agree. that's why i was asking the parent comment about what does "rich" mean for him.

but I agree with you that from a business perspective the US is de facto the place to be.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Perhaps we could crowdfund Tor node satellites?

Random thoughts: high latency, costs, vulnerability to spoofing and jamming, distribution of ODUs/IDUs, trust in the owner/manager of the link

What about (maybe) lasers + LEO, basically what Musk does?

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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> The largest entities are multinationals operating on multiple continents, so it's pretty clear that regulations being passed at federal level isn't the primary source of their economies of scale. First, it still can be. If the US has one set of laws and the EU has another set, a conglomerate has two sets of laws to navigate. That is still much easier for them than having dozens in each place. Second, companies do t…

> But that has nothing to do with entity size, and in fact is the opposite. If one state has advantageous laws then local companies there have an advantage over companies of any size that operate elsewhere. Meanwhile, in the real world, tax havens are tiny jurisdictions for very good and well-understood reasons and the companies operating out of them are not in any meaningful sense "local", and the downward pressure…

> Meanwhile, in the real world, tax havens are tiny jurisdictions

Tax havens are nonsense created by governments that want to impose taxes that aren't actually on anything.

If you want to tax companies who employ workers where you are, impose payroll tax. If you want to tax companies who sell to your people, impose VAT. If you want to tax companies that operate facilities, impose property tax.

If you want to tax nothing, tax "profit" and then watch how the "profit" is promptly removed from your jurisdiction. Because if the profit is a result of something that is actually connected to your jurisdiction in some way then you're really just taxing that thing and calling it income tax, but if it isn't then the company has no reason not to just declare the "profit" as having happened somewhere else where the rate is lower.

And then the local business can't do that, which is why those types of taxes should cease to exist in favor of the ones that tax something that actually happens where you are.

> and the downward pressure on workers' rights is much stronger when multinationals can credibly threaten to relocate to one of several other jurisidictions with relevant manufacturing industries if new labour laws are passed locally rather than by a large trading bloc.

This, again, has nothing to do with multinationals, and is in fact the opposite.

If California has more stringent worker protections than Texas this benefits local businesses in Texas. It only benefits multinational businesses if they move to Texas, and only to the extent that they move to Texas -- and if they move their entire operation to Texas then they're a local business and not a multinational.

Meanwhile what a multinational company can do that a local one can't is hire people in Asia or South America, which is a serious problem for a local business in Texas who is trying to compete with that multinational and suddenly has a bunch of requirements imposed by legislators elected by California who neither the business, nor its local employees who lose their jobs, actually wanted.

> And navigating 100 sets of copyright regulations rather than two is a challenge for a startup but something Amazon has ample resources to do where there's sufficient money in it to be worth bothering.

Which is why central control is problematic. You should only have to comply with the laws in effect where you actually are, so that you only have to comply with 100 sets of copyright law if you physically have operations in 100 different jurisdictions.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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This also affects small online communities, who pay for their servers by running a few ads. There are a lot of these platforms.

It does affect them, but differently: "Member States shall provide that, in respect of new online content-sharing service providers the services of which have been available to the public in the Union for less than three years and which have an annual turnover below EUR 10 million , calculated in accordance with Commission Recommendation 2003/361/EC 20 , the conditions under the liability regime set out in paragraph…

And I don't think any car rental services should profit from crime, so we seize their profits if their renters perform a crime while renting their cars.

/s

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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So you think the MEPs made a bad decision because they were mis- or uninformed, but then you would trust that the population on average would be more informed?

They were about as well-informed as much of the general public. There's a Youtube video kicking around of someone (I forget who) going round Europarl asking MEPs if they'd actually read Articles 11 and 13. The most common answer, by a country mile, was "no". We elect representatives to read these things and make a reasoned decision on our behalf. Not to do the political equivalent of putting on a blindfold and throwi…

Can you link the video?
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