Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI

Post by Lio » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 7:46 AM UTC

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> Nobody is making this argument because this is a normal thing that companies do. It's so common it is named in business strategy: "commoditize your complements." It is common in business strategy, far less so in nation-state governance. The reason you, me, and so many people in the United States still have a far better quality of life and level of freedom than most people in China is because it’s bad to run a count…

"you, me, and so many people in the United States still have a far better quality of life and level of freedom" LOL - are you sure about this?

Post by hdgvhicv » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 7:59 AM UTC

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I‘m not even sure what the argument for banning Chinese models/open weights even is supposed to be? 1. if it’s to stop hackers doing hacking things with „uncontrollable models“ then, well… they’re already doing something illegal to begin with, why would they care about breaking another law running these models? 2. if it’s to stop foreign actors, then that ban would not apply to them anyway 3. it’s not stopping distil…

Post by skrebbel » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 8:07 AM UTC

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The US will stop you from using it with sanctions. As a US citizen anywhere in the world intentionally circumventing sanctions grant you up to 20 years prison time. That’s just the short version not to speak of secondary sanctions and further mechanisms which take place then.

Won't EU companies just announce they've "developed" a new model named Komo, and then we can just use that? Or is the US just going to straight up prosecute plebs for using any model not owned by one of the 5 Americans?

Post by mft_ » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 8:14 AM UTC

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Probably in a similar way to how they go after IP/copyright currently. One method they use is to push for law changes in free trade agreements. US would use whatever leverage they have to get other countries on board and locked in to US providers.

That might stop European companies from buying inference directly from China. I don’t see how anyone could possibly stop them from taking an open-weight Chinese model and then modifying it and selling it to Americans as a European model.

Post by dannyw » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 8:17 AM UTC

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I think Grok is replacing composer now yeah? Fast mode is similar speed to composer.

Cursor has confirmed that Grok will be their flagship model, and Composer 3 their workhorse. The intention being that Grok 5 or whatever is the orchestrator and will summon sub agents using Composer 3 for work.