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If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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absolutely true. Masks + lockdown hobbies (baking etc) were virtue signaling and everywhere online.

Many Americans were traumatized by being asked to wear a mask because they’re big angry babies. Many other Americans were traumatized by the discovery that they’re surrounded by big angry babies.

Yeah... "asked"...

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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My one vacation to Paris I was very concerned about the protests/near riots, things being set on fire, and garbage piled high because of strikes I saw on television. But we ended up having a great time. Got used to the piles of garbage, and the fires and protests were scheduled in advance so easily avoided. And I gained an appreciation for the willingness of French workers to stand up for themselves.

> appreciation for the willingness of French workers to stand up for themselves I wonder if you still have that view when your car is one of the hundreds that typically get set on fire during protests. Rioting and the government caving for a minority out of fear of violence is the most undemocratic possible and does not fit in 21th century society. I’m happy to grow up north of France where minorities don’t torch the…

You have a deep misunderstanding of American civil unrest.

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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As an occasional visitor to the US from England I was surprised by how expensive it's become. The US always used to seem cheaper than England I think largely because the government got out of the way so houses were cheap because you could build them, cars were cheap because you could import them, food was cheap because you could just grow stuff in huge fields whereas in England much of that was restricted. On my trip…

I’m Canadian, but frequently travel in the US. Over the past year I am also shocked at US prices. It used to be that everything in the US was about 25% cheaper (makes sense as their dollar is worth more). Lately I’ve noticed that everything is priced the same. And I mean exactly the same.

On work trips over the past year I’ve had to buy tools at Home Depot, supplies at IKEA and Walmart, groceries, hotel, etc. I was in both large and small cities on the east and West coast … and the pricing is the same.

The drill I bought for $279 USD is $279 CAD. The IKEA cabinet I got for $199USD is $199CAD, etc..

Note sure what is going on with US prices, but Canadian making $17/hr minimum wage are struggling. I can’t imagine how Americans do it..

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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As an occasional visitor to the US from England I was surprised by how expensive it's become. The US always used to seem cheaper than England I think largely because the government got out of the way so houses were cheap because you could build them, cars were cheap because you could import them, food was cheap because you could just grow stuff in huge fields whereas in England much of that was restricted. On my trip…

Same experience as a Canadian visiting NY and SF in recent years. Yes I know I went to the most expensive cities in the country but still it was hard to eat a basic meal that wasn't US$30, and in tourist contexts (like the hotel restaurant) it was even more still. Even shopping for a few basic groceries felt like I was paying dollar amounts more than I would expect to see at home but in a currency that's worth 1.3x+.

Everything is priced the same. And it’s Detroit, Minneapolis, Austin, LA, and 100 people towns everywhere.

The US prices are the same as the Canadian prices, despite their dollar being worth 30% more.

Wild

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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this isn't accurate. america has a wealth per adult of 551,350 germany has a wealth per adult of 256,180 if you exclude the top 10 highest wealth holders in each country its 543,385 vs 252,811. america's a rich country compared most other countries its also got huge wealth in equality because its top .001% is something that doesn't exist anywhere else

Now compare what you can get for that money in both countries, and you will inevitably discover that the German is wealthier in every way that matters.

Counterpoint, when I lived in Spain, I had to remember never to talk about money with the locals in any way. They were poorer than anyone I have ever met in the US. They literally had to go without water at times because they couldn't afford to buy a bottle for $2. And there is no such thing as free water there. And this was in Barcelona, their richest city. For reference, everything there is about half the cost of the US but their average income was 1/4 of the US.

PS The only thing Germany is richer in than the US is snobbery and rudeness. Seriously, I wouldn't live there for any amount of income or cost.

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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In addition, people have intrinsic worth/value/identity because they are made in the image of God. So, yeah. "Must earn their worth" may sound "Christian", but it's not Christianity.

Mules are cheaper as well if you don't have coal readily available.

Thanks for the suggestion! I've always wanted to own a mule and now you've provided me with a justification!

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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Same experience as a Canadian visiting NY and SF in recent years. Yes I know I went to the most expensive cities in the country but still it was hard to eat a basic meal that wasn't US$30, and in tourist contexts (like the hotel restaurant) it was even more still. Even shopping for a few basic groceries felt like I was paying dollar amounts more than I would expect to see at home but in a currency that's worth 1.3x+.

Where in Canada are you from? When I visited Vancouver from the Bay Area things only felt cheaper accounting for the exchange rate.

Waterloo Region. So, not Vancouver/Toronto level, but definitely on the list:

https://creditcardgenius.ca/blog/most-expensive-cities-canad...

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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There's a mentality I see in Americans as well as in the big European cities where everything has to be goal-oriented or you have to have accomplished something, even when taking vacations. There's a stigma against just doing something for nothing, or even doing nothing and being lazy.

That's a cultural thing. Perhaps it's part of the Protestant work ethic. My favorite are Americans who call themselves "foodies", which means taking instructions from Tiktok influencers, visiting tourist traps, waiting in line to eat and overpaying on "Michelin" restaurants. Italian and French grandmothers make far better food without calling themselves "foodies" and a 15 year old from those countries has better know…

The first batch of Michelin restaurants (back in the 1920s I think) and chefs were all French grandmothers in (I want to say) Lyon. Just though that was interesting.

Re: If America's so rich, how'd it get so sad?

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To be pedantic what most people consider ownership is a revocable land lease from the state government which you forfeit if you fail to pay protection money to the gov. True ownership is non-existent.

There are plenty of entities that don't pay property taxes. Charities, religious facilities, some disabled people, spouses of fallen service members.

> spouses of fallen service

What if they get remarried?

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