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Maybe not all of it, but a vast majority of it is. And almost certainly the parts that drove Elon to slopify it are true.
Citation needed.
Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters
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#822Maybe SpaceX will buy xAI and Tesla to hide the systemic problems at his companies into the warm embrace of the one legit useful company.
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#823MechaHitler and undressing aside, Grok is the best integration of AI into an existing website ever attempted.
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It's how he hides losses though. People who aren't Musk can demand answers to questions he'd like to ignore. As it is within the Musk empire, xAI is used to hold up X, Tesla is holding up xAI. And all of that debt is being slowly shuffled to SpaceX.
SX investor here: the combined value of SX is well up on the private secondary market post-acquisition. It was value accretive, in very real dollar terms.
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> artificial boost is given to stuff nobody wants, but at a lower price can be convinced to buy. People do want it, clearly, but it's too expensive for them. Sales don't make people want things they otherwise don't.
literally almost everything I have bought on sale is something I wasn't looking to buy at that moment in time.
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The motivation to buy something is always because you want it. That a product doesn’t meet your needs or expectations later is a different story. What’s your evidence to claim that people spending 60k in a cybertruck don’t want it? What’s your evidence to make a similar claim or the opposite for any other purchase? Without evidence it feels you are making baseless claims about peoples motivations.
> The motivation to buy something is always because you want it salesman make you want stuff you didn’t know you want it but now you do. entire world economy is built on this
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Work is and has always been an economic bargain: Your time for their money. Morality is a luxury that only the independently wealthy can afford. Any business that allows it's employees to function according to their own morals becomes uncompetitive against its peers. That's why small companies by individual founders who want to stay true to their mission often stay small. They inevitably get bought out by one of the…
> Morality is a luxury that only the independently wealthy can afford. No. At least as I understand the word, "morality" means something different than "do the right thing when it is easy". If only those who can afford it do it, it is not morality. Morality is choosing the right thing even when it costs you, even when it is hard.
For me I could only do it because I had "f*ck you" money gained through investments, other people are able to do it because of welfare systems, or even through friends and family.
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Elon makes a relatively good case in the Dwarkesh podcast. I recall it like this: 1) Energy infra is going to be seriously limited on the production side well, well below demand 2) energy engineering solar for space requires less materials than for gravity-based solar (!) 3) you cut out distribution network needs when you just launch stuff all per-pod in space 4) SpaceX thinks it can create a scalable vertically inte…
>Elon makes a relatively good case in the Dwarkesh podcast. Are we still going to pretend that the man who has gotten every single prediction wrong so far knows what he is talking about?
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It's nothing like that. We're just trying to have an internet forum that manages to stay slightly more interesting than internet mean. Or, if you like, that doesn't burn itself to a crisp and turn into scorched earth. It is rather a modest goal. I think there is a place for such a website, and I believe most HN readers do too.
It's something that many readers feel should be burned to a crisp. Let it be.
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discuss != battle
In the context of what Elon has done, the only real discussion should be condemnation. If that leads to Elon fans feeling embattled, well, they should get better role models to look up to.