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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by mrweasel »

lugao wrote: post #608
gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

Only people who never interacted with data center reliability think it's doable to maintain servers with no human intervention.

Microsoft did do the experiment (Project Natick) where they had "datacenters" in pods under the sea with really good results. The idea was simply to ship enough extra capacity, but due to the environment, the failure rates where 1/8th of normal.

Still, dropping a pod into the sea makes more sense than launching it into space. At least cooling, power, connectivity and eventual maintenance is simpler.

The whole thing makes no sense and is seems like it's just Musk doing financial manipulation again.

https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/sustainability/pr...

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by d--b »

Buttons840 wrote: post #50

SpaceX is too big to fail. It's important for national security. I wonder if Elon wants to tangle all his businesses into SpaceX so they are all kept afloat by SpaceX's importance.

SpaceX is too big to fail for sure. If it goes bankrupt, it'll be broken down, and trimmed down to the succesful launching operation. But I don't think it's the reason it's buying xAI.

SpaceX buying xAi means that xAI shareholders are cashing in on its current high valuation. It makes it look like Musk is not very confident that xAI can navigate through the AI cycle, so he might as well sell it to rake in the profits.

But he still needs control over it because of the Tesla plan and in case something else happens in the AI field that he doesn't want to miss. So he's buying it with SpaceX, because he can, freeing some of SpaceX cash to pay himself and his xAI investors.

That he managed to bullshit SpaceX investors into buying xAI is pretty crazy. But I guess that's his main talent.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by raverbashing »

gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

Yeah

I don't know where this delusion of "Servers in space" came from, I think of it as the new NFTs

But I bet those pushing for it are very interested in feeding the grift

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by raverbashing »

rainsford wrote: post #548
gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

We also shouldn't overlook the fact that the proposal entirely glosses over the implication of the alternative benefits we might realize if humanity achieved the incredible engineering and technical capacity necessary to make this version of space AI happen. Think about it. Elon conjures up a vision of the future where we've managed to increase our solar cell manufacturing capacity by two whole orders of magnitude an…

And that's why the best way to use Superman's powers is in making him turn a giant crank

(yes I fully agree with you!)

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by faragon »

My question is how they'll update the hardware, if AI processors get outdated every 4-5 years? Or they will keep outdated satellites just for routing and Internet-related services?

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by cbeach »

TheBlight wrote: post #499
taurath wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t even have a habitable structure in space when the ISS falls, there is no world in which space datacenters are a thing in the next 10, I’d argue even 30 years. People really need to ground themselves in reality. Edit: okay Tiangong - but that is not a data center.

Ok then short SpaceX stock when it IPOs.

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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by maeln »

titzer wrote: post #550
gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

I couldn't believe that was an actual quote from the article. It is. These people are legit insane.

Smart people call it "story telling" /s. Musk bullshit and constant lie made him the richest person in the world. No reason not to continue.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by cafebabbe »

Den_VR wrote: post #803
gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

What concerns me are the implications if the Dark Forest Theory is correct.

Of course, we are stripping the earth bare to build word-guessers GPUs in orbit, but aliens are definitely the problem.
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