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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by dominicrose »

steve-atx-7600 wrote: post #529
tombert wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agency with, apparently, no accountability for following the law at all. Apparently any time they do anything horrifying, they will just declare that victim as a "terrorist" or something, and their sycophantic supporters will happily agree. What I find amusing is that when the Snowden leaks happened and I would discuss it, when I said something like…

Yes, exactly. But, I’ll admit it took me until the republican primary before the 2016 election for this to register in my mind. I was born in the US in the 80s & fell into the “what you see is all there is” bias (and hadn’t read enough history before then either). Another opinion that I’m sure will get me downvoted is that this is the primary reason I support gun ownership by private citizens. I think having a chance…

You don't need gun freedom to avoid mass government slaughter like in Iran. I live in France and I feel safe even though I can't defend my home with a gun. The door is pretty strong and if I go outside I know that the worst thing that can be against me is a knife or a dog, something I never saw used against someone with my own eyes, only in the newspapers.

What is required is a constant fight against obscurantism. It's a cultural battle.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

brettermeier wrote: post #778
CamperBob2 wrote: post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with immigration law. If it did, there would be no offer on the table to withdraw the ICE troops in exchange for the MN voter database.

Why do you have voter databases? I always thought it's a bad idea, who doesn't?

That has an easy and uncomfortable answer: to check that all registered voters are actually citizens. And this is why Democrat run states refuse to share that database, because it might show they have non-citizens voting. I guess the same could be said about Republican run states, but those seem like they have a lower rate of illegal immigrants.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by assimpleaspossi »

20after4 wrote: post #818
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #793

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Abusive relationships aren't always easy to escape. Even more so when the partner is extremely rich and powerful.

I missed this further in the article. She broke up with him four years after the first claim of rape only after she found out he was with a 22-year old. So she didn't have any problems "escaping" the relationship.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by noah_buddy »

callamdelaney wrote: post #765
kjellsbells wrote: post #240

FWIW, people here illegally are already not eligible for Medicaid, [0] so it's hard to see why ICE having access to a roster of Medicaid enrollees would help them with their stated mission of enforcing removal orders. Then again, we have ICE shooting American citizens in the streets, so I guess the law is whatever they decide it is, not least because our legislative branch is uninterested in laws. https://www.congres…

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Literally would not matter if he were violent prior to being shot. By the time that they shot him, he was face down on the floor and disarmed. That’s illegal in basically any context. It’s an execution.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by tlogan »

kjellsbells wrote: post #240

FWIW, people here illegally are already not eligible for Medicaid, [0] so it's hard to see why ICE having access to a roster of Medicaid enrollees would help them with their stated mission of enforcing removal orders. Then again, we have ICE shooting American citizens in the streets, so I guess the law is whatever they decide it is, not least because our legislative branch is uninterested in laws. https://www.congres…

I just want to clarify why this is not so straightforward. It really depends on how the term “illegal alien” is defined.

Before BBB July 4, Medicare covered the following groups:

- Refugees

- Asylum seekers

- Immigration parolees

- TPS holders

- DACA recipients

Under the Trump administration, the following groups are now considered illegal aliens:

- Asylum seekers with pending claims or those whose claims were denied

- Immigration parolees

- Certain categories of TPS holders (for example South Sudanese TPS ended Jan 6 2026 so all people under that protection are ordered to leave)

- Certain categories of DACA recipients

And the above people are probably registered for medicare with full name and address.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by iso1631 »

hwguy45 wrote: post #674
mikeyouse wrote: post #636

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ICE isn’t auditing Medicaid FFS. And no, there’s absolutely no evidence they’re getting access to Medicaid. They’re single mindedly looking for undocumented immigrants to deport.

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What amazes me about MAGA is that some claim to like Star Trek.

This is from "Way of the Warrior", when the dominion had managed to con the Klingons into invading Cardassia.

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: We have orders to search all vessels attempting to leave Bajoran space.

KIRA: Search them for what?

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: For shape-shifters. Each ship will be scanned, its cargo searched, and its crewmembers and passengers subjected to genetic testing.

SISKO: On whose authority?

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: On the authority of Gowron and the Klingon High Council.

KIRA: The Klingon High Council has no jurisdiction over ships in Bajoran space.

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: We assumed you would welcome our assistance.

SISKO: Do you have any evidence that there are changelings aboard this particular ship?

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: How can we have evidence until we conduct our tests?

KIRA: Commander, Bajoran law strictly prohibits any unwarranted search and seizure of vessels in our territory.

KAYBOK [on viewscreen]: I have my orders.

Compared to

ICE: We have orders to search all people attempting to live in America

Search them for what?

ICE: For illegal immigrants. Each center will be scanned, it's users searched, and their finances and medical history subjected to AI pattern recognition

On whose authority?

ICE: On the authority of Trump and the Federal Government

Trump has no jurisdiction over people in Minnesota

ICE: We assumed you would welcome our assistance.

Do you have any evidence that there are illegal immigrants in this particular learning center?

ICE: How can we have evidence until we conduct our tests?

The Constitution strictly prohibits any unwarranted search and seizure of vessels

ICE: I have my orders.

*Technically this point in the episode it was after the Dominion/Russia interference with the high placed Dominion/Russian asset, but before the Klingons/America invaded Cardassia/Greenland.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by mothballed »

dominicrose wrote: post #821
steve-atx-7600 wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. But, I’ll admit it took me until the republican primary before the 2016 election for this to register in my mind. I was born in the US in the 80s & fell into the “what you see is all there is” bias (and hadn’t read enough history before then either). Another opinion that I’m sure will get me downvoted is that this is the primary reason I support gun ownership by private citizens. I think having a chance…

You don't need gun freedom to avoid mass government slaughter like in Iran. I live in France and I feel safe even though I can't defend my home with a gun. The door is pretty strong and if I go outside I know that the worst thing that can be against me is a knife or a dog, something I never saw used against someone with my own eyes, only in the newspapers. What is required is a constant fight against obscurantism. It…

You can buy black powder guns over the counter in france and easily make or import the black powder from elsewhere in the EU. A black powder revolver is damn good for self defense, just needs maintained more frequently so the powder doesn't go bad.

Also note of sale (underground, also trivially made on one's own) in france is also FGC-9 pistols (modern gun + ammo easily made in short time in france, all with unregulated components), and attackers in france have also used re-activated decommissioned rifles.

Your country is awash in guns for anyone who wants it.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by koakuma-chan »

midlander wrote: post #807
koakuma-chan wrote: post #792

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do their loyalties lie? In Germany and Israel?

You think that people who were not born in America cannot be trusted / are not moral?

No, I'm wondering where would their loyalties lie. It doesn't make sense to me that anyone's loyalty would lie in Germany.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

rightbyte wrote: post #764
giancarlostoro wrote: post #592

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I think its their currently targeted ad demographic or whatever. Its probably a "meaningless" label to humans, but to the computer it makes more sense, he probably watches the same content / googles the same things as some random person who got that label originally, and then anyone else who matched it.

Yeah somewhat like "likes football" might just be a proxy for "male".

male, lives in this region, has an income between X to X+40000, and has used the following terms in chat or email, regardless of context, in the last 6 months: touchdown, home run, punt, etc. etc.

the ad game is not about profiling you specifically, it's about how many people in a group are likely to click and convert to a sale; they're targeting 6 million people, not you specifically, and that's balanced by how much the people who want the ads are willing to pay.

palantir or chinese social credit, etc., is targeting you specifically, and they don't care about costs if it means they can control the system, forever.

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