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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

_fat_santa wrote: post #785
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #742

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Tried Linux (Omachy) recently and the mouse pointer drops frames or chokes movement under load. Just can't use an OS that does that full stop.

I wouldn't call Omarchy "mainstream". Yes it's very popular among developers but that's about it and under the hood it uses some pretty non-mainstream components like Hyplrand WM. I would argue the OS closest to "mainstream Linux" is Ubuntu or Fedora with Gnome DE. Gnome has many many faults but it's probably the closest DE you're going to get to what Windows and MacOS have.

I'll give one of the more mainstream ones a try when I have a free afternoon, frustrating thing was it wasn't underpowered at all this was with a RTX3090 so very concerning investing in that, perhaps wrongly assumed Wayland etc would have been a similar feel to Mac Quartz Composer fluidity by now.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by postalcoder »

Wyverald wrote: post #402
postalcoder wrote: post #330

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The Touch Bar implementation sucked but I'm going to defend that attempt 100 out of 100 times. If Apple didn't remove the function keys I think it would have been a hit feature. There wasn't proper commitment to the feature.

Curious why you liked it so much. Removing the fn keys was a big no-no, yes, but also it was just located in a place I'm never going to look at. So why do you think it would've been a hit feature?

Modern UI design has trended toward hiding more and more things. I think it's super useful to expose a new, hyper-malleable control surface to the user (the stream deck is popular for a reason!). If the touchbar was ubiquitous, competition would force developers to think more deeply about interaction design and building apps that thoughtfully use it.

Adoption engenders development, and development engenders adoption. All of the best use cases of a touch bar are ones we would have seen had such a virtuous cycle been allowed to occur.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by hbn »

neutronicus wrote: post #743
fzeindl wrote: post #592

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That is incidentally one of the many papercuts that are widely accepted in Windows, but never were a problem on a mac. Don’t try to interact with a windows desktop while it is still booting up. Better to wait for everything to settle down, otherwise apps will constantly snatch away focus and your typing will go into random applications.

This is a constant irritation for me on Windows. I work on a desktop Windows/Mac application that takes forever and a day to launch (CAD package), and pops up a million pop-ups during the process. I try to get minor admin tasks done while it is compiling/launching, but it steals focus every 10 seconds! Still beats using XCode, though

Windows 11 also broke the active window from focusing when waking from sleep. Whenever I wake my PC, no window is active. I'll still have a fullscreen Chrome or whatever, but if I try to do Ctrl+T to open a tab nothing happens because nothing is in focus. I have to Alt+Tab once to bring it into focus.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by noisy_boy »

blinkingled wrote: post #133
Saline9515 wrote: post #114

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Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

I am a full time KDE/Arch user and since Plasma 6 haven't had any HiDPI issues including monitors with different DPI or X11 apps - of which there are very few nowadays.

Fedora 43 with KDE - have been using 140% scaling with my Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4k monitor - no issues whatsoever. I've noticed that the Dells do a pretty good job with Linux - I have used monitors of various sizes ranging from 27" to 43" and never had any issues on Linux.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by bsimpson »

theodric wrote: post #579
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I fell down the Nix hole this weekend, getting my corp Mac and my SteamOS Legion Go sharing a config. My corp device is a 5k iMac Pro that is going to be kicked off of the network when ARM-only Tahoe becomes mandatory later this year. I work at Google, which issued a Gubuntu workstation by default when I joined. I exchanged it for a Mac, which I've spent a literal lifetime using, because I didn't wanna fall down a Li…

> ARM-only Tahoe Tahoe supports x86. It's the last macOS release that will do so. Did you mean that Google is banning any non-ARM Tahoe box?

Well I guess the iMac Pro isn't on the lucky list then. I know it's losing updates (and therefore support) this year.

Unfortunately, I looked into it, and my other options are an Asus CX54 Chromebook or a Lenovo X1. There simply aren't competitive alternatives to Mac hardware, at least not at modern Google.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ljm »

iLemming wrote: post #185
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

I updated to iPadOS 26 on my iPad Pro, opened Safari, and tried to log into a website. For some reason the full-screen keyboard didn't load, all I could get was a miniature thing that floated on the left part of the screen (like the two-handed layout but with the full keyboard in one half, like typing on an iPhone 5s).

The memes about Steve Jobs turning in his grave are true. He would not have stood for slop like this for even a moment. Apple's quality game was miles higher back in the day.

Even if they tried to do some kind of Snow Leopard maintenance release for all of their products, I don't think they could raise the bar on quality high enough in just a single release. They'd have to do it a few times with nothing new to show for it.

This speaks nothing of the transition to MacOS looking more and more like a dysfunctional toy since Jony Ive left and Alan Dye took over.

Tiger and Snow Leopard were the peak.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by tbirdny »

john_alan wrote: post #173

Tahoe is a nightmare. I’m Literally not buying a new Mac because of it. Dye destroyed macOS. I don’t know what they do, but they have to backtrack.

I agree. I would like to buy a new Mac but that would mean I'm forced to use macOS 26. It may be years before I buy a new Mac.
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