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Re: Eat Real Food

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It's crazy how people are incapable of seeing something positive in the actions of the tribe they don't belong to.

If the actions and beliefs of a group are fundamentally morally repugnant to me, I think that it is reasonable to not expect me to be able to find "something positive" in it. We are not amoral automata with grocery-list style utility functions. I have people in my personal sphere that make this sort of argument and it honestly feels like gaslighting. The undercurrent is: "Look, you don't like this guy, I get it. But…

Well done. This might be one of the most childish comment I've read all day.

This give off an air of virtue signalling to the extend of self destruction. Almost funny thinking about it.

Re: Eat Real Food

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> America is sick. The data is clear. Can we inform dictionaries and encyclopaedia that data is now a mass noun and it is considered archaic to use data as a plural of datum?

OED records the first usage as a mass noun in 1702, I think the ship's already sailed there

Re: Eat Real Food

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Just compare this with actual scientific findings and see for yourself: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-025-03570-5

That article uses the Nurse's Health Study and nurses are some of the least healthy people I've ever met.

How are you going to infer what's harmful if you're only going to research healthy people?

Re: Eat Real Food

#825

For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.

Most of it seems fine, although eating even more meat than we already do is a bit perplexing.

The new "guidelines" for alcohol are pretty laughable though. I say that as someone who enjoys his fair share of beers. “The implication is don’t have it for breakfast," <- direct quote from celebrity Dr Oz during the press conference.

Re: Eat Real Food

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A lot of red meat is probably one angle I can’t get behind. They are very high in cholesterol and triglycerides which are deadly for the heart over the long haul.

Is pretty clear that eating cholesterol doesn't lead to higher blood cholesterol. It just doesn't matter.

One of those Egg Council creeps got to you, too, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuojmEoI51w

Re: Eat Real Food

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Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

> grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those. Agribusiness absolutely makes money off of those. In fact they had a hilariously easy time adapting to the consumer trend because all they had to do to label a cow “free range” or “grass fed” was change the finishing stage to a lower density configuration instead of those abominable feed lots you see along highways. The first two stages, r…

I don't believe that's true with 100% grass fed beef

Re: Eat Real Food

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Cool, yet another pyramid that people will debate. There a lot of different diets. Try them and judge which ones work best for you based on your goals and which foods are available to you. A lot of people in the United States struggle with caloric restriction i.e. not which foods, but how much.

Re: Eat Real Food

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> Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP - candy and sugary drinks are no longer eligible. I can think of one issue here. Ultra-processed foods, candy, and sugary drinks are cheap and shelf-stable. They're cheap because they're subsidized. Fruits and vegetables are more expensive, and they don't last very long. So a person on a very limited SNAP budget will get less food under the new…

I think you answered your own question with the last sentence. Have cattle ranchers, chicken farmers, vegetable and fruit farmers lobby for same or higher subsidies than grains.

For what it's worth, meat is insanely cheap in the US due to lobbied subsidies as well. The produce is what we really need to subsidize.

Re: Eat Real Food

#830
Instead of more meat, eat more eggs. Eggs are as good a protein source as meat, down to the same amino acid groups (unlike other protein sources, like plant-based). People used to worry about cholesterol but that has pretty much been put to rest by now.
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