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You're comparing our (flawed) democracy with a fake democracy.
Honest question- which one is fake?
At this point in time? Both
Trump pardons convicted Binance founder
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#822> Pardon follows months of efforts by Changpeng Zhao to boost the Trump crypto company
How is this not outright corruption?
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#823Earlier quoted context omitted.
Genuinely curious: what were the abuses by the Biden and Obama administrations?
Biden promised not to pardon his son and then pardoned his son. And not simply pardoned. Pardoned also for crimes not yet discovered
Wasn't that because there was a high chance of trump going after biden's son when he was in power, making up whatever charges he needed just as a power play?
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It'd take a constitutional amendment. So all we can do is not elect someone who will trade pardons for money (on this scale).
Eh, or the next POTUS can just drone strike whoever has been pardoned by the previous one. Immune for official acts and all that.
I remember there being an article in The Onion or something similar "Supreme Court grants presidency complete immunity; dies in drone strike."
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#825Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.
> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them Ha ha. They (democrats overall) need to look inwards for that. > Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. Fauci screwed up our country so bad, it aint even funny. The fact that he needed a PRE-EMPTIVE (i.e. he wasn't even accused of anything at the time) pardon says it all. And the fact that Biden…
> However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country".
His foreign policy means even the EU is now looking inward more because we simply don't trust you guys anymore. Thanks, we were depending on you guys too much anyway! It will take a while before we're weened off of you for sure, but your global influence will shrink tremendously thanks to your current president's untrustwortiness.
In dutch we have a saying which is roughly translated as "Trust comes on foot, and leaves by horse"
Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder
#826> Pardon follows months of efforts by Changpeng Zhao to boost the Trump crypto company How is this not outright corruption?
It is and you'll not doing much against it
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#827There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.
Pardons by American presidents:
- Bill Clinton: 459
- George W. Bush: 200
- Barack Obama: 1,927
- Donald Trump (first term): 237
- Joe Biden: 4,245
- Donald Trump (second term): 1,600
Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder
#828There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.
> There should be a limit There is, and the Constitution says the limit is impeachment and removal from office by Congress. That won't happen unless we fix how we talk about the ones responsible, to wit: The Republican Party pardoned these criminals. The Republican Party is snatching Americans off the streets. The Republican Party is using the military to murder people on boats. The Republican Party is demolishing do…
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Changpeng Zhao broke the law and got caught. Everyone agrees on that. What you present above is revisionist history about "political persecution," which is the favorite justification of the current administration for pardoning convicted felons, even in the total absence of any evidence supporting a conclusion of political persecution. See also George Santos, J6 rioters, etc. I don't think it's really necessary to pre…
Is there a place for a logical counter-point in there not having been charges against people responsible for the 2008 financial crisis? It seems like a selective enforcement of rules or consequences in both situations to me.
The right thing to do is to prosecute the responsible for 2008, not to pardon people responsible for other crimes...
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#830Most corrupt president in living memory (ever?) pardons convicted corrupt businessman, while directly profiting from said corrupt businessman's industry Years ago people would have thought you were talking about the DRC, Haiti or Uzbekistan. Today's it's the USA.
Don't kid yourself, US political corruption pre-dates Trump. This is just bringing it to a new level.
I find comment such as yours rather pathetic, for reasons I can't quite put into words. It's like you want to make excuses for Trump but you're not really willing to actually commit to it.
Political corruption was not invented by Trump. We know. But that's really not the point at all.