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The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.
What utter garbage. It’s not the left canceling Starbucks at Christmas time, or any company that dares sport a rainbow in any marketing whatsoever.
I've heard this before, but where did this originate? Did Jimmy just make it up or was he quoting some source? I heard the same thing but from people I interact with that this guy was crazy right wing nazi and killed Kirk because Kirk wasn't hard-line enough. But then the bullets said "Catch, fascist" which is kind of odd. Like, are fascists calling each other "fascists" as a meme, or was the killer signing his name like "catch, fascist".
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Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. Corporations are amoral (not good or bad). Only money matters. South Park can go on because they make money. Talk-shows are already dying and cutting them is easy choice even under mild pressure. The value talk they use is PR aimed at stakeholders (customers, employees, government). No company has taken a stance whe…
> No company has taken a stance where they willingly accept net negative returns if they have other choice. Demonstrably untrue. Nihilist generalizations make a poster feel cool, but they aren't helpful.
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This isn’t a free-speech issue. Kimmel was free to say what he said, and I personally don’t find his comments egregiously offensive. However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks.
> However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks. Government officials also threatened to pull the government provided broadcasting licenses that the corporation has. That’s free speech related.
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In the case of Fascism 1.0, it took satire, mockery, and thousands of Soviet tanks.
Soviet tanks, American bombs, British guns, French lives....
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the 18th century nation-state model has always been open to fascism.
It depends on where you draw the line for acting in good faith. Justice Antonin Scalia's opening statement before a 2011 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing is worth watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggz_gd--UO0 Even more worth reading are the Federalist Papers, cover-to-cover, as he suggested. The depth to which the Framers considered the kind of situations we are in today is amazing.
I’m at a loss of what to watch as far as television goes in the US, between the government threatening to intervene in content, corporations that own television networks with little regard for journalistic integrity, and PBS downsizing. I’m pretty much exclusively watching NHK from Japan through a Roku app.
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The problem is that America is now ruled by a de facto king, who uses the power of the state to submit corporations and people to do his bidding.
Also, there is quite a bit of money on the line, you can't really blame ABC for acting as a corporation: https://latenighter.com/news/jimmy-kimmels-removal-comes-ami...
They might think it will save them but acquiescing to a bully never works. It just shows you’re weak and can be pushed around.
Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?
I have read that the Joe Rogan school of comedy, that has grown popular in the past decade, did so on the grounds on fighting liberal "cancel culture". Back then they were rebelling against what was painted as a predominant culture, now that they have overachieved, one wonders if they would also fight cancle culture when it is coming from thr political right. I am not very optimistic about that. But maybe we get new…
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I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?
From the murderer's text messages: > Roommate: Why? > Robinson: Why did I do it? > Roommate: Yeah > Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left.