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Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah
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#822History books can tell you facts that happened, but they can never truly tell you how it feels. I feel we're riding a knife's edge and there's a hurricane brewing in the gulf of absurdity. ==== Incidentally, I feel like this is why it is so hard to actually learn from history. You can read about the 1918 'Spanish' Flu, but you think "we're smarter now". etc.
We may be smarter, but we certainly are not wiser.
There are facts, skills, smarts and then there is wisdom. The latter is in short supply and is orthogonal to the other three.
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They are just playing his own playbook and using whatever means necessary to push their agenda. These people trying to make him seem like he was some sort of Aristotle the moment he is dead know what they are doing.
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#825It's not a gun problem that we have in this country. Iryna Zarutska was murdered with a pocket knife. What we have is a spiritual sickness, which cannot be legislated... The only thing I can think of that the government can do is to clamp down hard on violence, including speech which advocates for violence (e.g. glorifying Luigi Mangione, calling everyone a Nazi/fascist, etc.). Freedom of speech ends where it actuall…
If you got rid of the guns, killings wouldn't go to zero but might go down 10x.
Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah
#826History books can tell you facts that happened, but they can never truly tell you how it feels. I feel we're riding a knife's edge and there's a hurricane brewing in the gulf of absurdity. ==== Incidentally, I feel like this is why it is so hard to actually learn from history. You can read about the 1918 'Spanish' Flu, but you think "we're smarter now". etc.
History books don't tell you what happened but a particular interpretation/opinion of it.
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#827It's crazy to me how many people are lost talking about gun violence on here when he died as a victim of political violence. The problem is the mainstream narratives that are making people's brains melt who then go out and shoot people who disagree with them. Go read any comments to Kirk's videos on X. It is literally a fucking mental asylum.
It was likely both, at least we know for sure it was gun violence, we don't know the motivation of the shooter yet. In the Trump shooting attempt the motivation didn't seem very political so much as a loser type wanting fame and power.
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#828pragmatically, you can't kill an idea with bullets. terrorism does one thing only: it triggers retaliation. nihilistic accelerationists who want a war can use terror to provoke one. some of Charlie Kirk's last words: > ATTENDEE: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? > KIRK: Too many. [Applause] I don't think the shooter was trans. but I'm trans, and I don't see thi…
> murdering this man was not just wrong, it was stupid.
We heard what happened on July 13th, and even from this far, culturally and physically, we could see (and this is not to play down an attempt on someone's life) – ah, there goes that election.
How the impulsive acts of violence have changed the course of history too many times, how people in power, people looking to take power twist and use such events. We don't learn from all that history, do we?
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#829Call me crazy, and maybe I'm just out of touch, but something seems... off with the reaction to this. The amount of people on reddit that I'm seeing gloating, openly celebrating this, it's really just something I have never seen before. Not even the Trump assassination attempt had this kind of reaction. All I'm saying, is that if I was a US adversary, I would absolutely be spinning up a million LLMs to post the most…
If you need a counter balance go look at the comments on the Mike Rowe Youtube video addressing this.
You'll see people fawning over Kirk like he was a prophet. Dear leader stuff.
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#830I was just at a conference today where one of the presenters referenced the "Trust barometer": https://www.edelman.com/trust/2025/trust-barometer According to that study, 23% approved of the statement "I approve hostile activism to drive change by threatening or committing violence". It's even higher if you only focus on 18-34 year olds. Full report here: https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2025-0..…
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I fail to see how the response you’ve quoted would stoke violence against transgender Americans, but let’s say it could, what would that make the rhetoric Kirk received, given he was the victim of actual violence?