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Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by helixfelix » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:20 PM UTC

hayst4ck wrote: post #799

thereddaikon wrote: post #611

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China doesn't want Taiwan for TSMC. They want Taiwan because they see them as a rebellious province. In their mind, the Chinese civil war never ended and that island is the last bastion of the Kuomintang. One way I've heard it described in a way that is easier for Americans to understand is; Imagine at the end of the American Civil War, a confederate army retreated to an island like Cuba or Hawaii, they took it over…

There is no “reason” or justification. The decision to invade has already been made, all these explanations exist for the sole purpose of making it easier to do nothing about it when the invasion happens. Chinese people feel they way they are taught to feel. China's fundamental argument distilled to its most pure form is "we are strong enough to do this, what are you going to do about it?" A world where the strong do…

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Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by anon291 » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:21 PM UTC

WinstonSmith84 wrote: post #34

Clubber wrote: post #26

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Are you willing to get drafted and fight to defend Taiwan and whatever comes as a result of that? Are you willing to die for Taiwan, or have your kids die for Taiwan? Honest question.

that's I suppose the risk one is willing to take when enrolling into the army?.. You're raising though a very good point, the US army is really large and it's not clear anymore what its purpose is anymore (not against Russia anymore, not against China soon/anymore, then what for?)

We're talking about drafts, which would certainly occur if America and China went to war. Both countries would start attacking the mainland. Are you willing sacrifice your son's life for that?

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by anon291 » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:24 PM UTC

scarface_74 wrote: post #93

Clubber wrote: post #26

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Are you willing to get drafted and fight to defend Taiwan and whatever comes as a result of that? Are you willing to die for Taiwan, or have your kids die for Taiwan? Honest question.

When you sign up for the military, if you know anything about history, you know that you will probably not be fighting on US soil.

Many people used to sign up for military service since their ancestors fought on American soil for American interests, and were actually raised under the presumption that this is the main purpose of the American army (or protecting American interests abroad, such as protecting American vessels on international waters). As it's become ever-more-apparent to the group most likely to enroll in the military (conservatives) that this is no longer the case, military enlistment has gone way down.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by RealityVoid » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:28 PM UTC

dralley wrote: post #774

dilyevsky wrote: post #771

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China is basically circled on all sides by US-allied forces and with Taiwan being one it really limits their force projection capabilities in the Pacific. That's the actual pragmatic reason, not some ideology thing, imho

Everyone wants to think there is always a "pragmatic" reason. It helps to think that there is always a rational cause for everything, every decision that is made. And we map cynicism about our own politicians onto everyone else, thinking that surely they don't mean what they say either. There's not always a rational reason. Ideology and nationalism are real things. World leaders do not always act in "rational" ways,…

Bingo! Trying to assign reason to emotional decisions is like reading tea leaves. And we're all subject to these emotional forces.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:30 PM UTC

helixfelix wrote: post #821

hayst4ck wrote: post #799

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There is no “reason” or justification. The decision to invade has already been made, all these explanations exist for the sole purpose of making it easier to do nothing about it when the invasion happens. Chinese people feel they way they are taught to feel. China's fundamental argument distilled to its most pure form is "we are strong enough to do this, what are you going to do about it?" A world where the strong do…

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Post by dikaio » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:31 PM UTC

helixfelix wrote: post #821

hayst4ck wrote: post #799

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There is no “reason” or justification. The decision to invade has already been made, all these explanations exist for the sole purpose of making it easier to do nothing about it when the invasion happens. Chinese people feel they way they are taught to feel. China's fundamental argument distilled to its most pure form is "we are strong enough to do this, what are you going to do about it?" A world where the strong do…

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Are you implying Brexit and Trumps second term is due to propaganda?

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by booleandilemma » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:32 PM UTC

hayst4ck wrote: post #799

thereddaikon wrote: post #611

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China doesn't want Taiwan for TSMC. They want Taiwan because they see them as a rebellious province. In their mind, the Chinese civil war never ended and that island is the last bastion of the Kuomintang. One way I've heard it described in a way that is easier for Americans to understand is; Imagine at the end of the American Civil War, a confederate army retreated to an island like Cuba or Hawaii, they took it over…

There is no “reason” or justification. The decision to invade has already been made, all these explanations exist for the sole purpose of making it easier to do nothing about it when the invasion happens. Chinese people feel they way they are taught to feel. China's fundamental argument distilled to its most pure form is "we are strong enough to do this, what are you going to do about it?" A world where the strong do…

There's a reason for everything, whether you like the reason or not.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by booleandilemma » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:36 PM UTC

saberience wrote: post #775

skyyler wrote: post #640

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"rouge" means red "rogue" means rascal

Jesus, you realize people just mistype things sometimes? It really annoys me when people feel like they have to come in and correct others this way, it's so condescending.

And the worst are those people that make people feel bad for correcting spelling mistakes!

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by rtkwe » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:38 PM UTC

greedo wrote: post #808

rtkwe wrote: post #790

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There's one big strategic thing the Ukraine war offers Russia and that's a nice balmy port and (if they'd managed the original 3 days to Kiev) removing a potential invasion front on it's juicy underbelly.

What port? They already have Crimea (since 2014) and the Black Sea isn't really 'balmy.'

It doesn't freeze which by Russian standards is balmy, an accidental shiboleth that trips up Russians pretending to be American online is they'll mention unprompted "warm water port" as a notable feature.[0]

This invasion is partially an extension of their goal of securing Crimea with a more solid land connection rather than the more easily interrupted bridge connection that was their only connection until they pushed up to their current lines in Eastern Ukraine.

[0] eg: https://preview.redd.it/least-obvious-russian-tweeting-about...

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by dan_quixote » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 10:40 PM UTC

DeathArrow wrote: post #362

ninetyninenine wrote: post #269

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The U.S. frames its deteriorating relationship with China as a fight for “human rights” and “democracy,” but from China’s perspective, that’s just a cover for a larger campaign to contain its rise. The real issue? The U.S. fears losing global dominance and is using trade wars, tech bans, military encirclement, and financial pressure to slow China down. China doesn’t want direct military conflict—it prefers economic a…

If bad guys do something, it's bad. If good guys do the same thing, it's good.

You would be an excellent author of history books!