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Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#821
I can't believe so much war mongering is going on this site. So much support for perpetual war, US to become world police. A decade or so ago the sentiment was against these. Where are those people, did they change.

If nations beleive this is a just war then they should send troops to the ground. Otherwise it seems like Ukraine citizens are sent to their graves while west is again virtue signalling.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#823
post #297

So, watching the video as a brit with a number if Ukrainian friends and colleagues, my first reaction is that this is the Trump Whitehouse looking for a cheap win. However, I think their calculation here speaks to the difficulty of the current situation. Putting aside the morality, sovereign integrity, and such: the situation appears to be entering/in a stalemate. The Ukrainian forces have done well to proactively ta…

Putin's aim is the complete destruction of Ukraine as a nation and the removal of the current democratically elected administration. Until that he can be only stopped with force.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#824

I have a naive question, as a foreigner: do European leaders have any kind of leverage on their US allies?

Europe could remind Trump that he's going to need our alliance if he plans to confront China. It looks less and less like he does though.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#825
post #47

If I were American, I’d be sick with shame. As a European, I’m disgusted—not just by your leadership, but by your silence. Your country is spiraling into disgrace, yet you sit there, watching, complaining online, doing nothing. Where is your outrage? Where are the millions in the streets forcing change? By staying silent, you are complicit. Just like the Russians who let Putin tighten his grip for decades, you are le…

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#826

US policy is now one of forcing the world into a zero sum game and it is a shame because the world isn't zero sum. This means the world will loose the gains from friendship and cooperation that increase the overall outcome for everyone. It is like living in a city where crime is expected so everyone puts up iron bars on their windows and the parks are all locked-down nightmares. When there is trust and cooperation yo…

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#827

I'm afraid of USA by now. That one day they will sever ties with Europe, I expected. But not becoming an actively hostile state. I am left wondering - how long it will take until Americans start openly supporting Russia and China? When I was younger, anti-American people were a source of jokes for me. Being a Pole, why would anyone be against our ally? Well, now I see. And it's painful to say that, but I'm starting t…

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#828
From HN guidelines:

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, [...], unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

What is the interesting new phenomenon this is supposed to be evidence of? (The question is not intended to be a statement.)

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#829

Eh. A lot will disagree with what I am about to type and, tbh, I am hesitant to point out the obvious, but I will do this just in case: 1. None of it should be a surprise. Policy-wise, Trump's position was very much well known at this point. 2. For Zelensky, this is actually the least bad political option at this point, which is presumably why is doing it this way 3. Note the amount of astroturfing surrounding anythi…

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

#830
In the UN resolution, US did not even dare "condemning" Moscow's actions and supporting Ukraine's territorial integrity. They did not even have to do anything but use words, a mere symbolic gesture. It is shameful.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/24/g-s1-50473/un-ukraine-resolut...

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