Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

nbcnews.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

821–830 of 1001 posts

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#821

Post by ta20240528 »

scarab92 wrote: post #774
appleorchard46 wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_Un...

Fiduciary responsibilities make it unlikely that many companies would risk it. There’s always a chance you don’t come back, and there’s likely to be a loss of marketshare for simply being unavailable for a period and forcing users to trial alternatives. But, TikTok is not purely commercially focused. A majority of the voting stock of ByteDance is held by the Chinese government, who clearly see non-financial strategic…

> hereby they retain most of the equity upside but give majority voting control to a US buyer.

Keen to see this opinion when the Chinese government demands the same from Apple.

'cos we're all equal, no?

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#823

Post by stuckkeys »

Brystephor wrote: post #34

What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

moonshine stopped working also. I guess it was under the same parent org. They all back to working now.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#824

Post by throwawayq3423 »

Brystephor wrote: post #34

What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

> Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly

Trump has never had any issue he has not been on both sides of. He has no ideology, he does what benefits him in the moment at any given moment.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#825

Post by maxglute »

scarab92 wrote: post #774
appleorchard46 wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_Un...

Fiduciary responsibilities make it unlikely that many companies would risk it. There’s always a chance you don’t come back, and there’s likely to be a loss of marketshare for simply being unavailable for a period and forcing users to trial alternatives. But, TikTok is not purely commercially focused. A majority of the voting stock of ByteDance is held by the Chinese government, who clearly see non-financial strategic…

[flagged]

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#826

Post by kshacker »

karmajuney wrote: post #807

While it’s back in the US, it seems to be a separate version from the rest of the world. My account is European and I can no longer log in within the US without a VPN out of the country. My GFs account is American and she can login but has lost access to some accounts and the ability to watch livestreams which my version of the app still has. I wonder if the 13 hour “outage” was for a larger scale data migration for…

I also can not see livestreams. It says "Unstable Network Connection". And I have 2 separate "air gapped" phones and TT accounts - no shared details and both behave the same.

There are lots of conspiracy theories online. However, I think it is just that the process of bringing the stack back up may be difficult. They also have a huge shopping network, that has also been down, and there are emails/communications to shops saying they are working on fixing it. Also, when I take a link from TikTok and post it in a downloader app, it no longer works since the URL is broken.

Maybe some microservices did not come back up (outage), or maybe they were knowingly compromised as part of the extension deal. While I can see that Lives can not be censored, I do not know the reason for shopping to be disabled, so I suspect it is an outage.

[ Actually shopping is also "live", so maybe that's why ]

We will probably find out over the coming days.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#827

Post by gaoryrt »

idhegeu wrote: post #155

Trump should launch a Tiktok clone on Truth Social in 90 days when the reprieve expires. I'm surprised there wasn't a new platform ready to pounce on new users. Absolutely nuts that one of the biggest refugee destinations is literally named after a Mao-era propaganda tool. But in all seriousness, there's 3 branches of government and 2 of spoken. Trump's voice should be moot. Hopefully he's put in his place by our ins…

Chinese here, sorry for my poor English.

I want you to know that the name of the app is '小红书' (小 little 红 red 书 book), and the name of the propaganda tool is '红宝书' (红 red 宝 treasure 书 book).

I don't think there is such a "name after" thing. There are a lot of mixed reviews on Cultual Revolution, a "name after" would bring a lot of risks during the growth of the app.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#828

Post by chgs »

metabagel wrote: post #211
ojbyrne wrote: post #102

Is it too conspiracy-theorist to notice that the timeline for this matches the $TRUMP grift that added significant $billions to our new president’s net worth?

Somebody invested $6 billion in Trump’s meme coin. There should be an investigation.

Nobody cares any more. We’re a long way from making Carter sell his farm. We’re a long way from the integrity of Nixon. We’re a long way from the fidelity of Clinton.

This is what the American people wanted.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#829

Post by throwawayq3423 »

ttul wrote: post #790
lumost wrote: post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

Here’s the law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521... No, Trump can’t legally postpone or give reprieve to TikTok. The time has passed for that. Once Congress has enacted a statute and the President has signed it into law, the executive branch must enforce it. An executive order cannot override or suspend a duly passed law unless Congress included an explicit waiver or suspension provision i…

Trump can choose to not enforce the law. That is of course illegal, and a high crime, but who is left to stop him?

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#830

Post by antigeox »

nemothekid wrote: post #743
lumost wrote: post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

> That’s a surprising outcome. It's President Trump, what are you going to do about it? The man has been regularly breaking the law since 2016 and there is never any political will to stop him. Trump v. U.S. established it's not illegal when Trump does it.

[flagged]
Post reply on HN