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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by the_gipsy »

boogieknite wrote: post #323
heurist wrote: post #273

I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

This is interesting and i see some of this now. Even here on HN and other forums i thought were mostly "human". Even one of my group chats i can tell one of my friends is using ai responses, but one of the other members cant tell and replies earnestly. I am grossed out by this. my instinct is to avoid ai slop. The interesting part to me is: What next? Where do we go? Will it be that "human" forums are pushed further…

> Even one of my group chats i can tell one of my friends is using ai responses, but one of the other members cant tell and replies earnestly.

Too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by kouru225 »

latexr wrote: post #703
bko wrote: post #691

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a technology. Much like you can still buy "hand made" shoes, there will be people that create curated hand made content. And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? I really don't understand why there is so much negativity for a new technology. It's never explained, just taken as a fact and people bemoaning the new state of the world.

> And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? It does, yes. To use your own analogy, if one pays for an artisanal product and is served something out of a production line in a factory, that is fraud. > It's never explained You’re not paying attention, it is often explained. One huge reason is that it devalues the work of artists who are already struggling to make any money by using th…

Ngl I think many of those artists’ work deserve to be devalued. As someone involved in art, there’s a huge amount of art that’s overly concerned with perfecting technique like a robot.

Entire movies are made just to be “one single take without any edits” and no one stops to ask themselves whether or not that’s actually the most impactful way to tell the story. The vast majority of digital art was just filled with all these people who mindlessly copied the same styles of vaguely realistic characters in the same action hero poses and then demanded praise/money for it. It’s like I was meant to praise the artistic talent of someone just because their process was laborious… and the truth was it wasn’t ever good art.

IMO AI art is just forcing many of these artists to take a look in the mirror, and they don’t like what they see.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by iamacyborg »

kouru225 wrote: post #823
latexr wrote: post #703

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? It does, yes. To use your own analogy, if one pays for an artisanal product and is served something out of a production line in a factory, that is fraud. > It's never explained You’re not paying attention, it is often explained. One huge reason is that it devalues the work of artists who are already struggling to make any money by using th…

Ngl I think many of those artists’ work deserve to be devalued. As someone involved in art, there’s a huge amount of art that’s overly concerned with perfecting technique like a robot. Entire movies are made just to be “one single take without any edits” and no one stops to ask themselves whether or not that’s actually the most impactful way to tell the story. The vast majority of digital art was just filled with all…

> As someone involved in art, there’s a huge amount of art that’s overly concerned with perfecting technique like a robot.

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> Entire movies are made just to be “one single take without any edits” and no one stops to ask themselves whether or not that’s actually the most impactful way to tell the story.

Yeah, craft is an important thing.

I don’t want photorealistic tattoos, personally, but I appreciate that people have the talent and ability to do them.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by intended »

flamedoge wrote: post #813
intended wrote: post #795

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human attention doesn’t get freed up by creating more content. It gets consumed. In all your examples - 1) Yes. It was a good thing 2) Yes. It is now a thing done to learn how to draw, and a niche skill 3) Yes, yes, yes. IF people are bemoaning the devaluing of certain activity, yup it’s true. It happens. There are fewer horses than there were yesterday. Certain forms of activity get devalued. They are replaced by an…

who's stopping you from Amish lifestyle? problem seems to be that people want authentic, hand-made 'art' but with price of a mass manufactured tech.

For art - I can get the dissonance. It’s inherently subjective.

I’m concerned with facts and science.

I have to talk past a litany of falsehoods about mental health with my dad before I can get to the actual science that will help him.

I have to remind people about things they studied in the 6th grade about history, to counter whatever hate group BS that has whatsapped itself into their heads.

This is what I am concerned about.

If it was cheaper to create true content, and more expensive to create non factual content, I wouldn’t be arguing about this with people who write code.

It’s just cheaper to create content and more expensive to identify content.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by mejutoco »

bko wrote: post #691
famahar wrote: post #672

I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

It's just a technology. Much like you can still buy "hand made" shoes, there will be people that create curated hand made content. And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? I really don't understand why there is so much negativity for a new technology. It's never explained, just taken as a fact and people bemoaning the new state of the world.

It is not about the technology being bad. IMO it is just a tool. The problem is that tool enables the pollution of good content because it makes so easy to spam everything. It feels like it will undo all the progress of pagerank and original google, and we will be back to altavista/internet portals days with curation.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by sensanaty »

thriwster wrote: post #739
vouaobrasil wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely agree. It's very terrifying and will likely cause mass disruption because it will disintegrate the social fabric that is held together by people needing other people for stuff.

It is also an automated loom. But now we techno creatives are the luddites.

The luddites wanted sane working conditions and to be trained on the use of newly introduced, dangerous machinery that was maiming and killing people and was meant to replace swathes of them overnight to make some rich capitalists richer.

The end result for them wanting humane conditions was getting murdered by the machine owners & the state.

Perhaps the rabidly pro-AI people shouldn't be on the side of the murderous psychopaths who wanted to extract maximum profit by employing children and displacing thousands of people if they don't want to be viewed as similarly psychotic.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by ur-whale »

famahar wrote: post #672

I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

> I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs

How do you know the books and blogs you're reading weren't generated by an AI?

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by the_clarence »

sourraspberry wrote: post #20

Impressive. Always important to bear in mind that the examples they show are likely the best examples they were able to produce. Many times over the past few years a new AI release has "wowed" me, but none of them resulted in any sudden overnight changes to the world as we know it. VFX artists: You can sleep well tonight, just keep an eye on things!

On the contrary I dont think theres anything special with their examples. It probably represent well most output. Think of image generation and the insane stuff people can produce with it. There's no "oh yeah this is just cherry picked"
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