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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by tekknik »

radlad wrote: post #814
larodi wrote: post #804

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was just going to write that there is no way people trust META to become their eyes. Maybe some smaller player. We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation. Considering recent cyberpunk breach I actually expect more people to try to distance themselves from this all. It will probably be top product for telemedicine and teletutoring one day, but it will never be safe in the hands…

> We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation Yet every single person carries one.

and yet many people want to get rid of them and move back to a simpler time when people weren’t connected 24/7

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by s0ss »

radlad wrote: post #814
larodi wrote: post #804

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was just going to write that there is no way people trust META to become their eyes. Maybe some smaller player. We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation. Considering recent cyberpunk breach I actually expect more people to try to distance themselves from this all. It will probably be top product for telemedicine and teletutoring one day, but it will never be safe in the hands…

> We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation Yet every single person carries one.

Often out of necessity. I fantasize about disconnecting, but the reality is more complicated; it would difficult for me and others around me were I to disconnect.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

ravenstine wrote: post #771
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

I agree, though it's hard not to be negative. My first thought after "oh cool" was "how long until this thing languishes and gets discontinued?" The recent history of AR devices doesn't exactly do Meta a service.

What are you referring to? Meta also released their latest gen AR/VR device the same day

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by leesec »

yndoendo wrote: post #791
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

This would be like Telsa coming with new tech. Tesla / X-Twitter & Facebook / Meta are companies I will never financially support. They make money off propagating misinformation and their CEOs are not decent human-beings.

What misinformation does Tesla propagate

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by stiray »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets

Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them.

This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that.

You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br...

It is helpful for becoming negative to negative companies where they deserve it.

IG Farben had great technology (for that time) but needed change of name and half of century of good service so they have been removed from our memory as producers of Cyclone B. Now they are known as Bayer. And my neighbor (concentration camp survivor), while he was alive, wasn't buying Bayer products and he was quite vocal about it. Any of them, regardless of technology, different people, different products,... Guess why. Will you say he was negative?

Thats why FB was renamed and I am eagerly waiting what they will be like after 50 years. Until then, they will not be anywhere near my devices and even less filtering my sight.

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #699
neurogence wrote: post #673

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The 100 degree field of view in the AVP is noticeable because it is a VR headsets. Most VR headsets like the Meta Quest 3 have greater field of view than the AVP, which is why the 100 degree is so noticeable. For an AR headset, 70 degrees is pretty good.

AVP is AR. They made a big deal of being able to place windows all around and above your workspace, but taking advantage of this requires large head movements. I had a Quest2 but sold it years ago. I'm not comparing AVP to any previous VR experiences, I don't even remember what the FOV felt like.

So is the Quest 3 (now 3s). It was significantly better than the 2

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #670
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #436

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> The company that looks most poised to capitalize on a product like this is still Apple. It's also possible they don't ever put out an offering in this form factor. They never released a dual screen phone. They never released a touchscreen laptop. This might be one of those things they just don't touch. Also, I wonder if they'll have a tough time filling the form factor with stuff to do. The lack of apps was a huge…

> It's also possible they don't ever put out an offering in this form factor Couldn't disagree more, if it was possible to bet on this I would bet all my money that they do release something like this. It'll probably be called the Vision Air or something. I don't remember which article it was, but there are reports that Tim Cook only agreed to fund and ship the Vision Pro because he was told that the same tech will b…

I'll gladly take that bet. Apple is known to be very conservative with hardware form factors, and the AVP was a huge risk for them, and a departure from their previous ways of working that they'll be reluctant to return to after its failure.

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Post by AlexandrB »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

The negativity goes both ways. I wonder if Mark Zuckerberg will think we're "dumb fucks" for buying this new gizmo.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by micromacrofoot »

frankhorrigan wrote: post #794
micromacrofoot wrote: post #790

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it's not really a matter of if at this point, it's a when... it's the peak of screen technology that we've been hurtling towards for nearly 100 years

I really hope you’re wrong. I suspect that the future is technology which blends further into the background rather than being shoved closer to our faces.

I agree with your ideal goal, but there are hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on getting it in directly into our eyeballs.

Maybe we'll be lucky enough to die before it's normal for this stuff to be integrated into our brains (which again, billions of dollars being spent on figuring this out).

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