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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00472... . There is compelling evidence crime is correlated with inequality.
https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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Crime is a function of inequality.
This is a blanket statement and is lazy in the same way as "all government is bad" or "all business owners are bad". Of course a small portion of all crimes is committed due to poverty. But it's super easy to come up with counter-examples. Mass murderers are committing crime because they're evil / crazy, not poor. There have been lots of rich mass murderers. Ponzi schemers do it because they're greedy. Just think Ber…
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Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater
Middle ages folks hate it because they are most likely to have kids and cities (in the US) tend to be kid hostile. What I'm calling city below is probably better described as downtown - most cities extend out farther and have areas that are nothing like what follows - but are also nothing like what you described as what people move to the city for. Parks in the city tend to be focused on art. They often lack kid basi…
Right, sprinting back-and forth, ear-piercing screams at the top of their lungs, kicking chairs - all things we should just accept at a restaurant, for the sake of the parents. What terrible people we are for wanting a decent dining experience.
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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Talent pool is downstream of the "flamebait reasons" though. Maybe they're not moving out of SF directly because of the high crime etc., they're moving out of SF because they can't attract talent in SF... but that may well be at least partly because of the high crime etc..
I've lived in high crime areas, and SF doesn't have the kind of high crime that would actually deter me. The monotony of a homogeneous population is enough to keep me away from the Bay for as long as I can; and I know plenty of other talented people that feel the same
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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South Bay & Peninsula housing is actually more expensive than SF, though you do get a bit more for your money. Compensation is often marginally higher as well, though most companies with offices in both have them in the same salary band.
> South Bay & Peninsula housing is actually more expensive than SF Per square foot/meter? I find this hard to believe.
San Francisco is $957/sqft median listing price [1]
Palo Alto is $1800/sqft median listing price. [2]
Hell, I live in Redwood City and the median is $996/sqft.
1. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/San-Franci...
2. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Palo-Alto_...
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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> if Tim Cook decided to move to Alabama that’s where Apple Park would be A current example of this is Walmart which is in the midst of trying to force a huge number of employees to relocate to Bentonville, AR . I can see why someone would move to NYC or SF for a job, since there are plenty of other options for career development, but you have to be pretty committed to Walmart for life (undoubtedly their intention al…
Walmart has always been headquartered in Bentonville, AR so that's a huge difference from the other examples here. People in well paying jobs move all the time though so it's not the commitment or strategic retention plan you seem to imply unless you think everyone in NY or CA is so pretentious that they couldn't believe that Walmart employees are worth poaching despite their IT and analytics department being bigger…
Relocating wasn't such a big deal when most family models were single income and women were basically all slaves and would follow their husband without having any say on the matter. These day, any relocation involve a discussion between 2 parties on the merit of relocating and possibility of career development for both. It is much more difficult.
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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That was already the case before Musk bought it.
Wrong. I don't understand why people attempt to make corrections like this. Anyone could browse Twitter anonymously, since the beginning.
Here's proof right here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33769715
Funny that people also found ways to criticize Musk back then for doing that :D.
Do you understand now why we make corrections to patently wrong statements like yours?
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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Crime is a function of inequality.
Well, Dubai, Kuwait, Singapore and a bunch of other places clearly demonstrate that you can have high inequality and close to zero street crime.
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
#829Perhaps change the inflammatory title? “kills” to “moves”
FFS.
Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay
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So you've been able to gauge life and the street scene in SF based on several meetings? That's super interesting. I would argue the Embarcadero is fairly nice and I live here, but what do I know.
I am nobody important living in rural middle of nowhere, but visited SF twice for work, and it was the most horrific city I have ever been to. I am a big man and didn't feel very safe.