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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Because you get to vote, so explain why it needs to be a rule

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Air traffic controller here: we have a mandatory requirement age of 56.

And you can't even get hired -- by law -- if you're over 30 years old. It's absurd . The FAA is complaining that they don't have enough ATCs, but have done absolutely nothing to broaden the hiring pool. "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

I've heard that the bottleneck is apparently the the number of students that can be admitted to the FAA Academy to be trained, not the number of applicants.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

The president has a large support staff to keep the lights on most of the time. Unless the nation is physically under attack, the president's day-to-day job is probably physically less demanding than that of pilots. They have plenty of time for golf.

Isn’t that true of airplanes as well? In theory support staff in the flight control room could instruct e.g. a flight attendant or even a passenger to land an airplane. However it is still not a good idea, chances are it will fail, so you do as much as feasible to prevent both pilots from becoming incapacitated in a large commercial plane.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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The reality is that the campaign donations accumulated by the Biden/Harris ticket are only available to Harris. Anybody else is funding-challenged even more than Harris at this point. From the standpoint of campaign finance laws and the practical realities of fund-raising, it was Harris all along.

The Biden/Harris campaign can not donate their donations?

Generally no. They could refund their donations and ask their donators to donate to the new campaign. Or they could donate to a superpac.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

The same reason we don't have a race or sex limit on the Presidency. We should only have competency limits regardless of any other factors. My grandfather died at 101. He was extremely sharp until he was 98 and on no medication. I'd vote for that 95 year-old over either of our current choices without hesitation.

“Competency” is hard to evaluate, especially objectively, and that raises a whole host of other issues because it can’t be resolved expediently. Who raises a competency question? Who decides on it? When can the question be raised? What happens if we don’t have an answer by the time of the election, because it’s tied up in appeals?

Objective qualifications are much simpler. We could argue for months about whether a president is competent, but it takes like 7 seconds to decide whether they’re older than some arbitrary bar.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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> But he did campaign on a single term. He did not really do this.

I never could find a direct quote of Biden himself saying he would be a single term president, but his campaign team said it regularly in public interviews.

In 2020, when they asked him if he'd run for reelection, he said "I view myself as a transitional president," which is a pretty fucking weird answer if he were planning to run again.

Everyone expected him to drop out earlier, but I think the reason he stayed in as long as he did was to take all the bullets for Kamala until he felt confident all the other potential challengers would get behind her.

What he didn't want to do was drop out early, let Kamala get battered and bloodied by her own party nomination process, win the nomination, then lose to Trump just because she'd been dragged through the mud in the media for months.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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This was a forgone conclusion since the debate but there needed to be prolonged drama to save face

I think the prolonged drama made it far far worse for Biden's legacy

He was dropping out no matter what, and Kamala losing is objectively worse for his legacy than Kamala winning. Anything he could do to help her is good for his legacy, and he took a ton of bullets for her the past few months in order to give her the best shot at beating Trump.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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We live in unprecedented times. The last time we had a sitting president not seek reelection like this was LBJ and he announced his intentions in March, 1968 [1]. We don't have the communications media we have now. This had a massive impact. The Democrats were largely unprepared, in part because RFK was assassinated in June. This ushered in Nixon who expanded the war in Vietnam, started the illegal bombing of Cambodi…

Appreciate the historical context. Thanks!
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