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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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America should have a long hard look at why it takes so long to do something that would have been considered "reasonable" by most of the country 15 years ago.

Our government moves slowly, by design.

Trust me, you don't want to see a fast-moving American government.

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#822
post #736

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Very short sighted thinking. If they beheaded Sam bankman fried there will be a clear message to not commit financial crime, and the aspiration and motivation would almost zero. The gesture of the freeing these two brave whistleblowers is much more important than you think. Noam Chomsky calls this censorship flak of his five filters. > If you want to challenge power, you’ll be pushed to the margins. When the media –…

I can only remain bemused at how some people weigh things; 300,000 people were arrested in 2020 for possession of marijuana [1]. There is nothing short-sighted about wishing the free so many people of the misery of being under the same thumb (the penal system) that you bemoan for Assange and Snowden. 1. https://www.bakerinstitute.org/research/317793-people-were-a...

Where is the stats for 2023?

Weed offenses do not not precedent over unlawful spying, espionage and the countless more lives it would save for their actions. Unfortunately those people are overseas and you seem dismissive of the American evils such as collateral murder. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvFpT-iypw

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#823
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post #736

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Very short sighted thinking. If they beheaded Sam bankman fried there will be a clear message to not commit financial crime, and the aspiration and motivation would almost zero. The gesture of the freeing these two brave whistleblowers is much more important than you think. Noam Chomsky calls this censorship flak of his five filters. > If you want to challenge power, you’ll be pushed to the margins. When the media –…

SBF was willing to repeatedly take double-or-nothing bets at 50/50 odds even though the expected utility of each bet is the same as not betting at all and the combined odds of bankruptcy very quickly asymptotes to 100% with increasing rounds. Literally beheading him won't put off the next person like him. His current punishment is probably enough to put off anyone sane. Assange isn't a whistleblower just by founding…

No he was not. You think he'd repeatedly do Russian roulette with half the bullets? He had the odds with him with his legal advisors.

Madoff's sentencing is why SBF's parents taught him to disregard the law. If you don't understand the idea of figureheads being important, what would happen if the president was shot, or if Dali lama was chosen by china? America would still keep going as would tibetan Buddhism. The leaks seems to have stopped much more since assange is gone. HN is a platform and I'm sure we'd still exist without it, assange definitely does deserve credit.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#824
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I don't smoke tobacco, I seldom drink, and I don't use marijuana. Those are habits I hope my kids avoid too. Nonetheless I would never wish for a world where my kids go to prison for failing to avoid them.

But they do. Your kids will be put to prison for drunk driving, drinking in public places or you will go to prison for buying them booze. Is it an oppressive world? Do you feel the urge of strongly fighting against it and promote alcohol? I'm amazed how people regard fighting for legalisation of yet another drug as some sort of a freedom fighting act.

Well that's a topic shift. Outlawing a thing is not the same as outlawing its abuse.

I'm against drunk driving, yes. I'm also against pilots flying without any sleep. But I would disagree with the assertion that anyone who stays up late belongs in prison.

Sometimes the "cure" (in this case, prison time) is worse than the "disease" (marijuana use).

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post #284

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> voters remain free to replace the executive the next time around Note that there are only either 538 or 100 voters, depending on which position in the executive branch.

No, the President exerts significant control over executive agency policy, and is elected by many more people than that.

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post #284

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> voters remain free to replace the executive the next time around Note that there are only either 538 or 100 voters, depending on which position in the executive branch.

No, the President exerts significant control over executive agency policy, and is elected by many more people than that.

The President is elected by the 538 electors of the electoral college.

The ballot is a lie. You're actually voting for an elector, not the President.

In practice, the general voters typically see the electors vote the way the populace in their area voted, but that's not always the case.

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I said he’s a supervisor, not in security. He’s not an idiot. He’d be caught very quickly. Cash controls are such that everyone is. I don’t know if every state is like mine, but here they have to do complete inventory every night. You can steal but they’ll know it happened by the end of the day and then start checking the footage. It happens.

Thank god he was smart enough to avoid becoming a security guard, the natural path to thievery. But he is high every single moment at work by your reasoning, yes?

I’m not sure you even read the comment you were replying to. Click “parent” a few times and you’ll see “My brother got promoted to supervisor in a month for the simple reason that he is the only person who could wait until after work to get high.”

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#829
post #781

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>"Consciousness" apparently has around 40 definitions Yes but only one that applies here. From oxfords: "Internal knowledge or conviction; the state or fact of being mentally conscious or aware of something." I disagree, I think they're both very clearly defined. Both in the clinical and law sense.

I don't see how that helps. I am deeply confused by much of BDSM, but I am aware that some people report enjoying the experience of not having any control, of their ability to choose being taken away from them. Can you also give an example of what you mean by "free will" such that your chosen definition does help?

BDSM people (hopefully) willingly choose to have that experience.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#830
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But that's factually untrue. Gallup polled support for legalization being in the minority, as recently as 2010. [1] Now factor in the demographics of voters vs adults in general, and the timeline is the opposite of surprising. [1] New High of 46% of Americans Support Legalizing Marijuana https://news.gallup.com/poll/144086/new-high-americans-suppo...

Since when is majority support the same thing as reasonable??

> something that would have been considered "reasonable" by most of the country 15 years ago
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