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#821

Seems, it started with Google advising the Fed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Payments_Interface In December 2019, noting the success of UPI, Google suggested the US Federal Reserve Board to follow UPI as example in developing FedNow,[22] a real-time payment system for United States.[23]

UPI is a modern marvel tbh. Can't praise it enough.

I agree. I hardly carry cash nowadays.

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It’s a little especially strange as IBM hasn’t exactly made a great reputation for themselves over the last several years. Name dropping IBM makes me think that the reserve is generally not confident and is ready to blame IBM for what they expect to happen.

More likely, everyone in charge of this project on the government side is over 55 and still think of IBM as a signal of quality and reliability.

Wasted opportunity though. The ECB is adopting Kafka. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/ecb.prototype_summar...

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#824

Is there going to be a universal SDK / API we can use with this? This would cut alot of middle companies out of the payments industry (or at least put pressure on lowering fees). That would be a huge win. Wish we could do the same for the credit card companies. Would be great if the Federal Government could intervene in some way to have Visa / Mastercard / American Express / Discover use the same API interface for pa…

> This would cut alot of middle companies out of the payments industry (or at least put pressure on lowering fees). That would be a huge win. > Wish we could do the same for the credit card companies.

I have no idea about fednow but you can directly transfer an unlimited amount of USDC to someone in about a second for $0.0025 right now on Solana.

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I don't see how this is anything like a crypto exchange, is there something I'm missing here?

Some crypto maximalists ignore many of the intrinsic aspects of crypto (decentralized consensus, cryptography, etc.) because in their use case, it's just 'digital money.' So when a completely dissimilar example of 'digital money' comes up, they equate it to crypto, even though it lacks many of the intrinsic aspects of crypto.

None of the intrinsic aspects of crypto matter if its in a centralized exchange. In the cases of a centralized exchange BTC may as well equal fiat, for it has all of the downsides of fiat alongside the risk of an exit scam/mass theft, and with none of the insurances one may have with a fiat institution.

So, unfortunately, for these “crypto” maximalists, the crypto aspect of their digital currency is just some fun trivia and not something they even bother to leverage.

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#826
post #651

If the IRS was used against political opponents, this will be too. I think this is a case where setting a standard and requiring payment processors to adhere would have been a much better idea. More centralizing of power is not what we need right now.

Can you point me to any examples of the IRS being “used against political opponents”? Please specify who the opponents of the IRS are in your examples.

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> Banks and credit unions of all sizes can sign up and use this tool to instantly transfer money for their customers, any time of the day, on any day of the year. Whoa. Is this as awesome as it sounds? Is this akin to government-backed Venmo, or something?

So, almost like SEPA, but not as good, as not all banks are in it? I can type anyone's IBAN* into my banking app and transfer them money pretty much instantly. However, ours will have a delay outside banking hours, which is annoying. Sounds like FedNow is always instant, which is a definite improvement. * Any IBAN from a SEPA country, at least.

A large portion of SEPA bank accounts can now use TARGET Instant Payment Settlement (TIPS) on TARGET2/T2. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/target/tips/html/index.en.htm...

My mid-sized Italian bank has a promotion right now to make instant payments with only 1 € in fees (instead of the usual 7 they charge, or 0 for "normal" bank transfers settled overnight).

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#828

So when can businesses start utilizing this to replace ACH? I run a b2b company and right now ACH is our most popular payment option, but the settlement time is a pain.

Right away. My organization verified that an account at one of our banks could send thousands of dollars to an account at another bank, in seconds, and then send it back. It's pretty cool. :-)

Did you have to pay extra fees for the service?

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post #613

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a little especially strange as IBM hasn’t exactly made a great reputation for themselves over the last several years. Name dropping IBM makes me think that the reserve is generally not confident and is ready to blame IBM for what they expect to happen.

More likely, everyone in charge of this project on the government side is over 55 and still think of IBM as a signal of quality and reliability.

There is a huge variation in "quality" across IBM's product line. There are still a few sectors where they are legitimately top-tier competitors, and there are others where they're a joke.

Half the banking sector runs on IBM and has been running on IBM for decades. They know the domain well and have legitimate credibility for being reliable. It's not comparable to some of their other markets.

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Yes, that is absolutely a use case. Similar to Venmo, there is also a Request for Payment (RFP) mechanism. I'm on the Request for Payment (RFP) Work Group that is composed of a number of financial institutions, service providers, and billers. Netflix is part of the RFP Work Group. So presumably they are interested in offering consumers the ability to pay for Netflix using FedNow instead of a credit card. Instead of N…

> So presumably they are interested in offering consumers the ability to pay for Netflix using FedNow instead of a credit card. I do wonder how stuff like this will shake out. I will use a credit card, always, with any vendor that doesn't pass along credit card fees to the customer in some way. (Why would I choose otherwise? The credit card gives me rewards, and better fraud protection.) But more and more, I see comp…

"Hell, T-Mobile just started requiring you not use a credit card to get their $5/mo autopay discount."

Yes. Visited a T-Mobile store to set that up. Brought in a voided check. Said "Set up an ACH transfer, please." "What's an ACH transfer?" Took about half an hour, two rejects from the T-Mobile payment system with both me and the clerk checking the numbers, and a conversation with Bank of America customer support ("We didn't reject that, we won't see it until the daily batch.") Too many people are going to be paying T-Mobile a $60/year "convenience fee".

(Worse, BofA is apparently still charging for outgoing ACH transfers. And they're not on FedNow.)

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