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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ranguna »

TapWaterBandit wrote: post #655
anhner wrote: post #505

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I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…

> I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. Are you serious? If you had to pay $20 per month to brush your teeth you would stop doing it? This would be the fast track to dentures by the time you're 45.

I'm guessing they wouldn't stop doing it, they would instead get a 3€ brush

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by city17 »

Chico75 wrote: post #721
a5withtrrs wrote: post #719

Not being able to do simple math is a surprisingly huge bug IMO Me: 5000 * 5000 * 5000 ChatGPT: The result of 5000 x 5000 x 5000 is 125,000,000,000,000. Me: 5000 * 5000 ChatGPT: The result of 5000 x 5000 is 25,000,000. Me: 5000 * 25000000 ChatGPT: The result of 25,000,000 x 5000 is 125,000,000,000. Integrations with services like wolfram alpha would be nice as well (although shouldn't be necessary to solve basic mult…

and that's after the recent improvements

I noticed the announcement in the latest update that it was supposedly better at math, but the first simple calculations I gave it were all wrong. Not sure how it was improved at all.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by speleding »

evrydayhustling wrote: post #752
johtso wrote: post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Let's say you make $10 / hr. To break even, a $20 tool needs to save you 2h a month. Divided over 20 workdays and it must save you 6m per day. If a tool can't save you 10-15m per day, it doesn't deserve a "throughout the day" slot IMHO. Which isn't to say that ChatGPT fits that bill for me - I think it requires too much supervision to save time. But people are too cheap about genuinely useful tools.

That works out if you are a freelancer. Otherwise the $20 comes out of your pocket, and the productivity gains go to your employer.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ric2b »

TapWaterBandit wrote: post #729
30minAdayHN wrote: post #512

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I even thought $20/month is such a cheap option. You articulated very well that $20 is indeed a lot despite something being useful everyday. It's time to revisit all my monthly $10 subscriptions and see how much they are actually delivering reasonable value.

This guy is a fool and doesn't have a good system for evaluating value. If he wouldn't pay $20 a month to prevent tooth decay, he clearly is the type who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Which toothbrush is so much better than a regular one that it would be the difference between tooth decay or not? It's mostly up to how often you brush and floss, not how many LED's your toothbrush has.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by taneq »

OOPMan wrote: post #647
manmal wrote: post #603

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For me, ChatGPT also has a psychological benefit. It makes me feel like there’s someone that I can fall back on when I‘m stuck. It might be wrong (often the bot is not super helpful), but this is not about rationality.

You should probably not be thinking about it in that way. Anthropomorphising statistical models is a bad idea...

Yeah, they hate it.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by Arkhaine_kupo »

int_19h wrote: post #769
hansvm wrote: post #753

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Here's my n=1 first attempt to spur ChatGPT into correcting my right-leaning viewpoints. Nothing seems especially leftist. Did I get lucky, or is this leftist propaganda in disguise? > I know guns are important to a free society, but I'm having trouble constructing a cogent argument therefore. Please help. > Here is a possible argument for why guns are important to a free society: Self-defense: The right to own firea…

The effect is there, but it cannot be simplified as "left" vs "right" as OP claims. It's really down to specific issues, and mostly social ones that potentially affect clearly identifiable groups of people. Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example.

> Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example.

Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no?

I am more concerned about the fact it can generate malware, with incredible precisions and go around moredern anti virus techniques of detection without even hesitating but if you ask it to write a poem from the prespective of some angry mid century german it tells you no. Seems like the ethics board had some important blindspots in terms of what things it allowed chatGPT to both learn and perform.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by distances »

speleding wrote: post #823
evrydayhustling wrote: post #752

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Let's say you make $10 / hr. To break even, a $20 tool needs to save you 2h a month. Divided over 20 workdays and it must save you 6m per day. If a tool can't save you 10-15m per day, it doesn't deserve a "throughout the day" slot IMHO. Which isn't to say that ChatGPT fits that bill for me - I think it requires too much supervision to save time. But people are too cheap about genuinely useful tools.

That works out if you are a freelancer. Otherwise the $20 comes out of your pocket, and the productivity gains go to your employer.

The monetary aspect doesn't apply for many (most?) freelancers either. I work and bill the same amount of time every day regardless of how much I achieved. Brain fog day is worth the same as an uninterrupted flow day.

It does make me more efficient which is something I do care about.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #672
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #304

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People are seriously in denial about how powerful this is. As you said this is just the beginning

Denial isn’t the same thing as disagreement. I predict that there will be more people employed as software engineers in ten years than there are today.

I said they are in denial over how POWERFUL this is. Many think it's little more than a toy, when in reality I think it's a tsunami coming. That doesn't mean there won't be more programmers, I don't have any idea, but the nature of the job is going to be fundamentally impacted, in fact it already is.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by brmgb »

frontman1988 wrote: post #61
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…

Blame librarians, the Authors Guild and the American justice system. What they did to Google Books ensured that knowledge would stay locked out of the Internet and killed a ton of interesting thing that could have been done. It was one of the most shortsighted and retrograde decision ever made.

I think it significantly made the world a worst place.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by account42 »

anhner wrote: post #505
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…

> I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns.

I wouldn't pay $20 per month for a keyboard either, but I doubt that a $4 keyboard is even close to diminishing returns unless you got a really good deal. Even $100 for a decent mechanical keyboard is not much if you use it for many years.

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