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Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

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I literally only hear that Google search is bad from HN. No one else in my daily life - my family, friends, people out at my gym or grocery store - ever complain that Google search is bad. In fact, Google is still the default for looking up information anywhere. It's sentiments like this that make you realize how much of a bubble HN exists in. OTOH, people have trouble using GMail, google home, or ban YouTube in thei…

In some sense, it could seem better to a lot of people just because for whatever query you can imagine there is probably a top N listicle that search will happily present to you, even if it is auto generated nonsense. > Next to no one uses Android, etc. That is sarcasm right? I can't quite tell.

US is mostly apple world

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

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I literally only hear that Google search is bad from HN. No one else in my daily life - my family, friends, people out at my gym or grocery store - ever complain that Google search is bad. In fact, Google is still the default for looking up information anywhere. It's sentiments like this that make you realize how much of a bubble HN exists in. OTOH, people have trouble using GMail, google home, or ban YouTube in thei…

>Next to no one uses Android Wait, what? Who's in the bubble now?

The fact that somebody writing on HN doesnt know this shows you how low information the world really is.

We generally assume too much about the shared knowledge basis. There would be much less friction if we could improve on that

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#823

> I take full responsibility for the decisions that led us here When an incident occurs in prod and it affects the livelihood of 12.000 people (or more if you include family), you'd expect at the very least a post-mortem. I've never seen a company produce one after that. What was the root cause? crazy hiring, massive wage war Could the current situation be anticipated? hell yeah, out of a pandemic, war raging in Euro…

> When an incident occurs in prod and it affects the livelihood of 12.000 people (or more if you include family), you’d expect at the very least a post-mortem. Yeah, this isn’t an “incident”, this is capitalism working as designed. The pro-forma taking of responsibility is just part of the ritual that labor, management, and capital all know is fake of pretending otherwise. If you don’t want to work at a firm that ove…

"I take full responsibility" indicates that, at least on the PR side, that there is responsibility to take, ergo that's an incident.

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

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This guy! Imagine thinking “diversity programs” are a significant cost center, as if their spend were comparable to real estate or employee compensation

It's not really about the cost though, is it? If they were donating to the KKK or literally setting cash on fire, I doubt you'd have the same outlook. Wasted or misspent money is never something to overlook, particularly when you could have justified keeping a few more employees on if you'd just stopped setting money on fire.

How can you equate spending on diversity with spending on the KKK?

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

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> Chat (whatever it's being called that month) is always changing, and not for any benefit that I can see. I'll actually vouch for the current state of Chat. The Google Chat and Spaces functionality included in the office suite is a great addition. It still has a ways to go to be anywhere close to the level of Slack, but what they have so far is extremely useful for customers that don't want to deal with an outside s…

Google chat is the worst software I’ve ever used

original google chat in gmail was fine. since then it's evolved but compared to slack it feels like google isn't even trying.

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#826

> Pivoting the company to be AI-first years ago led to groundbreaking advances across our businesses and the whole industry. > Thanks to those early investments, Google’s products are better than ever. Does he really believe this? Maybe I'm just biased towards the parts that are annoying and I end up missing the good parts, but search seems worse every day. I worry about using google products for anything essential d…

After the way Google treated Stadia, I can't trust any Google product enough to fully rely on it.

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#827

> Pivoting the company to be AI-first years ago led to groundbreaking advances across our businesses and the whole industry. > Thanks to those early investments, Google’s products are better than ever. Does he really believe this? Maybe I'm just biased towards the parts that are annoying and I end up missing the good parts, but search seems worse every day. I worry about using google products for anything essential d…

> I worry about using google products for anything essential due to the risk of being locked out with no recourse This is my big one as well. As Google refuses to segregate accounts, nebulously AI defined “bad” behavior on YouTube or GCP could lock me out of my digital life.

Its terrifying for anybody ecking an existence in tech (without deep pockets). Those who built businesses around facebook and now twitter know all too well the risks of being a digital serf. But you argue it was their choice.

You cannot do anything techy without exteme dependence on google. This is not how things should bem

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#828

> Pivoting the company to be AI-first years ago led to groundbreaking advances across our businesses and the whole industry. > Thanks to those early investments, Google’s products are better than ever. Does he really believe this? Maybe I'm just biased towards the parts that are annoying and I end up missing the good parts, but search seems worse every day. I worry about using google products for anything essential d…

I literally only hear that Google search is bad from HN. No one else in my daily life - my family, friends, people out at my gym or grocery store - ever complain that Google search is bad. In fact, Google is still the default for looking up information anywhere. It's sentiments like this that make you realize how much of a bubble HN exists in. OTOH, people have trouble using GMail, google home, or ban YouTube in thei…

Because non-tech people don't think about which search engine they're using. Doesn't mean it's not bad.

Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#829

> I take full responsibility for the decisions that led us here When an incident occurs in prod and it affects the livelihood of 12.000 people (or more if you include family), you'd expect at the very least a post-mortem. I've never seen a company produce one after that. What was the root cause? crazy hiring, massive wage war Could the current situation be anticipated? hell yeah, out of a pandemic, war raging in Euro…

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Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k

#830

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> When an incident occurs in prod and it affects the livelihood of 12.000 people (or more if you include family), you’d expect at the very least a post-mortem. Yeah, this isn’t an “incident”, this is capitalism working as designed. The pro-forma taking of responsibility is just part of the ritual that labor, management, and capital all know is fake of pretending otherwise. If you don’t want to work at a firm that ove…

"I take full responsibility" indicates that, at least on the PR side, that there is responsibility to take, ergo that's an incident.

He might be expecting a fat compensation bonus, by being responsible for a profit increase
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