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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#821
post #454

Elon is the PM from hell. Has some shower thought and starts throwing tickets on everyone's board 45 minutes later. This is why the Model X has those silly doors.

Model X is one of the best selling electric cars in the US and has very large margin for Tesla. It made a lot of news and an differentiates it from other vehicles in the class. I'm not sure I would consider it a failure.

Do you mean the Model Y is one of the best selling? Model X doesn't fit that bill.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#822
post #404

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checkmarks mean prestige, exclusivity, and validation. public figures and journalists love prestige, they live for it. twitter just removed one thing that made it attractive to them. being able to buy it means it s useless for anything other than removing spam that s a very odd way to remove spam . and personally i dont see twitter bots because i dont go searching for them. Musk is completely obsessed with the wrong…

checkmarks ALSO mean you are who you say you are. making them a feature of Twitter Blue (note: one feature of Twitter Blue) eliminates any status that might have been conferred in the past, yes, but it also goes a long way to sorting legitimate from fake users.

They are who you say you are - assuming you can do proper verification of individual identity and affiliation, authorization to represent a business or brand, etc. for some portion of that first $8 payment.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#823

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> Model X is one of the best selling electric cars in the US No, that car is essentially a failure and I'm amazed Tesla hasn't completely cut it from production. It sold 1,316 units in the US September. They were selling almost 4,000 in September of '18. Even if you wanted to go by year, you're talking about 26,000 sold in the entire US in 2020 (it's best year and I'm ignoring '21 since there was a factory shut down)…

I suspect the low numbers are related to production and supply chain issues. You still need to wait for months to buy one. Also most Tesla customers would buy a Y these days. I see many X in Norway, which has a lot of rain and snow. What are the issues you mention?

> I suspect the low numbers are related to production and supply chain issues. You still need to wait for months to buy one

That may not mean what you think - you may be waiting for them to have enough orders for them justify retooling the factory back for a short run.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#824

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They wrote: > It's a higher barrier to having a good experience, which I can't think of many successful examples of to be honest. The way I read the poster is that they think being asked to pay more will create worse experience, which is implied to be stupid. Except it isn't, it's literally what's happening in every market all the time. Getting people to pay more for worse product is entirely normal, and the way it u…

> They wrote: >> It's a higher barrier to having a good experience, which I can't think of many successful examples of to be honest. > The way I read the poster is that they think being asked to pay more will create worse experience That is something they say, but the quote you pulled isn't related to it. You were looking for this one: >> At best this will reduce conversation quality on Twitter But they never bother…

I never justified it because that quote is nowhere in my comment.

Regardless, it’s not as “stupid” as you claim. How many social networks have added a premium tier for non commercial users, while degrading the quality of the free tier and been successful?

Closest I can think of are dating apps, which have a unique driver behind them that Twitter doesn’t have.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#825

"Half as many ads" fascinates me deeply. Has a business ever publicly quantified how many ads you get? Does YouTube say, "we expose you to an average of x seconds of commercials and y pixels of static ads"? How do I know what half should be? We've all been there: "it feels like YouTube has cranked the ads way up lately..." Will "half" just become "full" when "full" gets doubled next year?

Thought the same thing. How do you prove top me as the user that I'm seeing "half as many ads" now that I'm paying $8? No ads is easy. They are there or they aren't. I'd considering paying Twitter $8/month if it was no ads. Or, you know, I just keep using Tweetbot for $10/year and there's zero ads there and a straight reverse chronological timeline to boot.

> Thought the same thing. How do you prove top me as the user that I'm seeing "half as many ads" now that I'm paying $8? No ads is easy. They are there or they aren't.

They'll just double-up ads for non-paying users in the current ad slots on the feed.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#826
post #322

The dynamics on Twitter are quite weird. There’s a small number of users with potentially lots of followers for whom Twitter is an important part of their work or life. If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software ($100 pa seems pretty cheap there). Indeed maybe media publications should be paying for…

That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

But who wouldn't pay $8/mo to reduce the number of ads they see to only half!!1 /s

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#827
post #322

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That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

Stephen King’s tweet on that topic, to summarize: “ $20 a month to keep my blue check? Fuck that, they should pay me. If that gets instituted, I’m gone like Enron.” https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1587042605627490304?s...

I nearly missed Elon's follow up tweet on the $8/month:

"This will also give Twitter a revenue stream to reward content creators"

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587505731611262976

So I guess they are actually planning to pay Stephen King after all, if he stays Twitter Blue. (Presumably his share of the money would be more than $8/month.)

How they distribute the money will be key. Would it be based on generic follower counts & likes & engagement - which will surely drive massive waves of spambot activity - or will each user's $8/month be distributed to the accounts they follow, almost Patreon or Flattr style? That might actually be interesting.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#828
post #609
post #359

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Yeah, but the way this played out and was promoted, it wont say "cool". The badge being cool requires certain kind of PR and this does not seem to me to be it. In github case, pro badge means you support resource many many developers user for free and is super useful. In case of twitter, it is unclear what it means, really. That you want to yell louder I guess?

As a big twitter user that badge already has quite the status symbol

It is status symbol, because twitter nurtured it as a status symbol. You could not get it, unless their commission decided you are notable enough. The impossibility to get it and the social approval that comes with it are what made that status symbol.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#829
post #633

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I'm sure it's actually the least successful vehicle Tesla sells.

Its comparable in sales to the Model S I think. Maybe even outsells it in some places. And sells more then many other cars in that category.

Looks like it outsold the S for a couple of years (2019-2020?)

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/07/03/tesla-model-3-model-y-m...

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#830

What is this going to solve? Blue checkmarks was intended to find the real public person instead of thousand scammers. If it now means that you have paid for account, then what is the point? This is not going to help their finances either. Someone [1] did a calculation: "If one in five current blue ticks paid $20 a month that would raise just under $15 million a year for Twitter… Twitter’s current revenues (mostly fr…

Why assume that only current checkmark holders would pay? I'm sure there are many more who wish they had a checkmark who would pay. Overall, I have no idea if it's a winning strategy, but I think this analysis undersells the potential.
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