A generation of American men give up on college • Hacker News Board

Re: A generation of American men give up on college

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Post by happythen » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:07 AM UTC

joenot443 wrote: post #815

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worse educational experience? thats dramatic as hell. You are just mad that can't steal support reserved for other folks. You keep throwing around priveledge and advantage but I don't think you get it. Do women make less money than men, underrepresented in industries, way higher percentage of being victims of domestic abuse and sexual assault? But your argument, is always "some men", but we are talking about "in gene…

Please make this your last comment thread on HN, this was painful to read. This type of discourse does much better on twitter or reddit, feel free to keep it there.

"you know what this old thread needs? some hacker news superiority" - you

You jumping in a old thread, and you expect me to believe it's because you want me to stop? sounds like to showed up late to the party and just sad everyone left, and you want me to jump back in to talk to you. How you doing?

Re: A generation of American men give up on college

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Post by alvah » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 11:36 AM UTC

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Yep. I've converted myself to a member of the native ethnicity because my government has a policy of preferentially buying from native-owned businesses but failed to define nativeness using any immutable or objective characteristics. I just have to remember my new ethnicity on any future forms that ask for it. It may also entitle me to enhanced healthcare services.

I hope you’re kidding. What a terrible thing to do.

You're absolutely correct. The government giving preference to suppliers on the basis of ethnicity is a huge step backwards.

Re: A generation of American men give up on college

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Post by kortilla » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 3:43 AM UTC

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> built my house with union labor (union shop) and found the level of competence higher than was typical with jo the random contractor So you built two homes, one with a well researched union labor group and one with a well researched contractor? Or is this just some BS elaboration based on comparing contractors you hired for small time shit with the big house job?

Excellent epistemic inquiry. I’ve owned homes for over 30 years, and have experience with hiring contractors for remodels. Also hired non-union contractors to do building work on offices over the years. And the company that had a machine shop? One of our channels was home construction and overall I was not impressed with the kind of work I encountered. But to really get to your question: I started my 3-year home cons…

So you had one bad experience building a home with a non-union contractor and extrapolated. Seems sound enough.

Re: A generation of American men give up on college

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Post by exporectomy » Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 12:39 AM UTC

happythen wrote: post #761

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This is what the science actually says. Black disfunction is attributed to culture spread from adults to children. Black mothers, for example, criticize their children more often than they praise them, but the reverse is true for white mothers. That's just an example of the kind of cultural effect that can be included - I'm not sure if that one specifically has been shown to be causative of lifelong disadvantage.

Definitely black people's fault... hey you coming to the meeting next week? we got a lot of crosses to burn, could use your help. Good to see you creepin in homes listening to black mothers not give enough praise to their kids, thats great research for the cause.

You want researchers to not attempt to identify the causes of black social problems? Why's that? So you can promote your own ideologically motivated causes without any bothersome science getting in the way?