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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by marcinzm »

macspoofing wrote: post #810
Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL wrote: post #767

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lesson here is to ask people for advice before writing public statements (for one), and before threatening with lawsuits in private communication. 1) You apologize, but basically the other person did something wrong? 2) You invoke sympathy for being a "struggling kid from Jordan fighting for more than a decade to build something" ; so what? So now you're the victim? Your reaction to all of this is comedy gold. Hi…

>The lesson here is The lesson here is never apologize on the internet because that'll be thrown back in your face.

Not really. Don't apologize unless you first Google "how to apologize" and are willing to mostly follow the advice you get. The problem is that to follow that advice you need to publicly accept that you were the bad guy unequivocally which many high ego people are not willing to do.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by [deleted] »

truetraveller wrote: post #812
PhineasRex wrote: post #675

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This explains a lot of why he's so threatened by this random POC. He's projecting onto the author the exact thing that he did.

Not the "exact thing" at all. Replit existed before he joined the company. Moreover, Codecademy's primary purpose was not a code playground.

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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by enos_feedler »

hashbig wrote: post #303
risyachka wrote: post #80

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It's kinda funny how their CEO writes on Twitter all the time that they are the best company in the world, with the best product, do most innovations in tech etc and 10 minutes later he is threatened by a small open-source project that wasn't even created to compete.

I unfollowed him after he tweeted that Repl.it is the most innovative company in the world. Yeah, not SpaceX or Neuralink or Pfizer. A company that runs docker images is the most innovative company.

We had a startup called Runnable in 2013 that did a similar thing as repl.it. Coding sandboxes in many languages by spinning up docker containers on the backend [1]. We solved a lot of scaling problems, but I honestly thought the innovation was mostly handled by docker. And that was by 2013.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20140702013410/http://runnable.co...

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by _ozde »

amasad wrote: post #757

Hey everyone, I want to apologize for the inappropriate use of power here. While I do believe there is an ethical line that was crossed here, I should have called him to understand his point of view and work it out. Which is what I'll try to do now, and see if we can get his project back up again. I'm sorry Radon. The lesson for me here is to internalize how I'm no longer the struggling kid from Jordan fighting for m…

I don't find this apology sincere. Especially when you say that you inappropriately use your power. Would that mean that you will still use your power inorder to shutdown Radon's open-source project that he developed just for fun?

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by ping_pong »

amasad wrote: post #757

Hey everyone, I want to apologize for the inappropriate use of power here. While I do believe there is an ethical line that was crossed here, I should have called him to understand his point of view and work it out. Which is what I'll try to do now, and see if we can get his project back up again. I'm sorry Radon. The lesson for me here is to internalize how I'm no longer the struggling kid from Jordan fighting for m…

There was no ethical lines crossed. If you have proof that he copied code from your repo then that is illegal. But if he copied the idea, there's nothing ethically wrong with that. The one who crossed an ethical line is you. You can't protect ideas, only actual code.

What is ethically wrong is bullying a former intern with legal threats. You need to learn this, I guess the hard way.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by stanislavb »

tommoor wrote: post #634

> we’re also excited to announce one of the first (of many!) projects that Amjad has worked on with us: Codecademy Labs, the easiest way to play with JavaScript, Ruby, and Python online I'll just leave this here so we can all bask in the insane hypocrisy of this entire episode. https://www.codecademy.com/resources/blog/amjad-joins-codeca... Edit: See Amjad's response below – seems Repl.it may have pre-dated this hiri…

I wouldn't be surprised if Amjad is currently thinking how to coerce Radon to take down the post, too.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by rurabe »

amasad wrote: post #682
tommoor wrote: post #634

> we’re also excited to announce one of the first (of many!) projects that Amjad has worked on with us: Codecademy Labs, the easiest way to play with JavaScript, Ruby, and Python online I'll just leave this here so we can all bask in the insane hypocrisy of this entire episode. https://www.codecademy.com/resources/blog/amjad-joins-codeca... Edit: See Amjad's response below – seems Repl.it may have pre-dated this hiri…

That was a clone of Replit that we made work at Codecademy. I started working on Replit (or repl.it) back when I was a student in Jordan. I didn't have a laptop so every time I wanted to get some programming done I had to setup a development environment at the university or at work. The idea for Replit was when you needed a repl to do some coding you should easily get one from anywhere including a mobile device. I th…

with regard to ethics, two plausibly valid options:

either you believe that people should act ethically even if that means forgoing actions that they are legally allowed to make. if you believe that, isn't it wrong to build a free, open source competitor using all the knowledge you just got from working inside a company?

or:

you believe that business is the law of the jungle, and everyone is free to do whatever they can get away with legally. in which case why is it a problem for amasad to get lawyers involved?

it seems this dude's victimization relies on holding amasad to a higher standard of ethics than he holds himself. maybe he should because he has more money and power. or maybe not?

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by cbsks »

CheezeIt wrote: post #818
griffinmb wrote: post #777

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Based on your retweet[1], you still seem to be publicly punching down. [1]: https://twitter.com/pnegahdar/status/1402018604233732098?s=2...

The guy made a whole blog post attacking him. You shouldn’t defend yourself?

No? IMHO they should attempt to correct their mistake.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by griffinmb »

CheezeIt wrote: post #818
griffinmb wrote: post #777

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on your retweet[1], you still seem to be publicly punching down. [1]: https://twitter.com/pnegahdar/status/1402018604233732098?s=2...

The guy made a whole blog post attacking him. You shouldn’t defend yourself?

Given that he's now un-retweeted it, it looks like even amasad agreed it wasn't a good look.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by austhrow743 »

macspoofing wrote: post #810
Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL wrote: post #767

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lesson here is to ask people for advice before writing public statements (for one), and before threatening with lawsuits in private communication. 1) You apologize, but basically the other person did something wrong? 2) You invoke sympathy for being a "struggling kid from Jordan fighting for more than a decade to build something" ; so what? So now you're the victim? Your reaction to all of this is comedy gold. Hi…

>The lesson here is The lesson here is never apologize on the internet because that'll be thrown back in your face.

Don't fake apologise with a "he started it", on or off the internet.
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